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发表于 2024-11-22 09:31 | 显示全部楼层
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408贴吧转述的英肉剧透
首先本话提到,卡金王族会不定期到各个村落开银趴,被选上的人没日没夜侍奉,然后被带到艾依依的管理机构去待产,这些生下来的小孩,血统没问题的成为二线者,未来有机会领导三大家族,有问题的成为“肉“,大概就是当牲口养。
重点来了...墨莲娜其实属于肉。她顶替了真正的二线者墨莲娜,真的墨莲娜已经在她坟墓里了。
至于她的目的,小目标是覆灭卡金,大目标是人类灭绝,所以大规模传染是必要手段,招募波克森是她的特质系能力类型适合管理大量感染者。不过与此同时狗狗侠还在找其他特质系潜力者,也就是波克森并非不能替代,时间拖久了对波克森也有风险。
不过船上管制后狗狗侠应该很难继续行动,会给波克森争取更多时间,打牌打到410.
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发表于 2024-11-22 09:48 | 显示全部楼层
卡金王国这么开趴是不是也有可能是回锅肉国王的念兽能力
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发表于 2024-11-22 10:43 | 显示全部楼层
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408英肉 文字版全文:
HXH 408 tl
Page1
No.408 Negotiation part 2
[Morena]
It's your turn.
Choose a card.
Page2
The negotiation game begins.
[Morena]
The "Purpose" card, huh? Why did you choose this one?
[Borksen]
Huh? Is casual chatting okay? In that case, I'll talk about various things too, but there's no punishment, right?
Page3
[Morena]
Sure.
Let's take this opportunity to get to know each other better.
[Borksen]
Hey, are there other members too?
About 50 people in total?
[Morena]
Hehe, nice try. They will never speak.
For your information there are others, but... no more questions. If you want to ask, use a card.
[Borksen]
Of course, I chose the "Purpose" card to use it as a basis for my decisions.
Well then, I won't answer any of your questions either.
[Morena]
Aww... that's a bit sad...
Alright, if you answer one of my questions, you can ask me one in return.
[Borksen]
Thanks.
Number of allies are fewer than 50...
She reacted quickly without her expression stiffening, so the number isn't quite close... It might be about half...
[Morena]
My "Purpose" is the destruction of the Kingdom of Kakin. Once that's achieved, I'm planning to push for the destruction of humanity.
For that, I need your power.
Page4
[Borksen]
Huh?
[Morena]
Huh?
[Borksen]
You didn’t explain enough at all.
If 100 is full understanding, then I'd say we're at about a 3 right now.
[Morena]
Oh... I see you're quite curious.
Should I start by talking about my background then?
Are you familiar with "Nisen mono?"
[Borksen]
Yes, you're referring to royalty who don't have the right to inherit the throne, like you.
[Morena]
The real Morena Prudor was indeed like that... but I’m not even royalty.
The true Morena is in my grave.
[Borksen]
Huh?
Then... who exactly are you?
[Morena]
"Carnival" and "Blasphemy." – do these clues help you understand?
[Borksen]
"Festival Orphans"… I see.
"Carnival"
The Kakin royal festival, held once every few years,
takes place in a randomly selected village.
The royal entourage visits incognito to host a "banquet."
All villagers chosen are then immediately divided into two groups: "those who serve" and "others."
"Blasphemy."
Any act that disrespects the royal family is strictly forbidden, and those who violate this will be sentenced to the death penalty.
Before the modern era, even direct speech from lower officials or commoners looking directly at the royal family were punishable by death. Even with the progress of democratization today, acts such as contraception, abortion, or genetic testing related to the royal family are considered acts of rebellion and disrespect toward the royal lineage, resulting in immediate execution.

Page9
[Morena]
Yes, while Nen abilities are indeed similar to psychic powers, anyone can learn them with the right training…
There are also abilities that can awaken Nen in people who haven't yet realized it.
My ability includes that as well.
So, you won’t need to undergo long, special training.
[Borksen]
I See.
So, could you tell me specifically what your ability is?
[Morena]
Yes,
My ability, to put it simply, is to grant powers to those who share the same "goal" as me and expand that circle.
I am the "parent," and the "children" are limited to 22.
When the children accumulate a certain amount of points, they can become parents themselves and create their own children.
This is my ability…Hehe
It’s kind of like a pyramid scheme, right?
I listen to each child's "goal" and, considering their characteristics, I assist and support their ability awakening.
[Borksen]
Clever...
The structure of the explanation is such that no matter whether I choose "goal" or "ability" first, I’d want to know the other.
If I had chosen "ability" first, she wouldn’t have explained any further from here...!
Honestly… we...
No, I...
I don't really care about missions, responsibilities, or national defense once Kakin is gone.
It’s uncomfortable and troubling to have our daily lives, which we thought would continue as usual, and the vague future ahead of us, suddenly disrupted by someone else’s grand ambition.
Oh
Each of them...?
Isn't the goal "Kakin's downfall"?
Page10
[Borksen]
By the time I was old enough to understand things, I was already in a military academy, taught that my mission was to protect the integrity of the nation. But honestly, I thought, "If no war breaks out until I die, that's good enough."
I was skilled enough to luckily make it into the advanced officer academy.
Listening to popular songs from enemy nations was a life-threatening act, but in high school classes, we were taught about the "outside world" as part of the curriculum, even if the information was a few months outdated.
A country with the world's lowest water management rate, yet somehow leading the world in the partial production of stratospheric artificial objects and information processing capacity...
In such a nation, I had planned to live a modest, uneventful life within a small range of roles, like a frontier military prep school instructor or a deputy director in the General Affairs Office of the Ministry of Defense—positions like fourth secretary or below.
...That's why all of this is incredibly troubling.
With Beyond's New Continent Declaration, the situation suddenly took a drastic turn for the worse.
And now, on top of that—Nen abilities and the extinction of humanity…!
[Morena]
"The downfall of Kakin” is merely my own “small goal."
What unites us in our larger purpose is "killing people"...!
Whether directly or indirectly, it doesn’t matter.
Each of us has different reasons, circumstances, targets, or numbers. Those are our individual "small goals"...
[Borsken]
I sympathize with your background, but...
Even if there were someone I wished would disappear from my life, I’ve never considered choosing "murder" as the means to achieve that.
It’s good to know that you’re being honest, and that I can’t sympathize with your "goal" at all...
Using that information, I’ll—
[Morena]
These Nen abilities are greatly influenced by each individual's personality and state of mind.
[Borsken]
I will do whatever it takes to avoid this chaos!!
Page11
[Borksen]
You mentioned that Nen abilities are strongly tied to a person's personality, right?
So, how do you know that my unawakened ability is important, when you barely know anything about me?
Are you hiding your true intentions behind rhetoric like "everyone is special,"
simply to make the person you're negotiating with believe that "I am special"? Could it be just a negotiation tactic?
[Morena]
You are a Specialist.
Nen abilities are broadly divided into six categories.
You belong to the very rare Specialist category within those.
I have an ally who is an Enhancer.
He has enhanced his sense of smell and gained the ability to "detect abilities."
Currently, his power has reached a level where he can distinguish even the faintest aura from an unawakened person.
Page12
[Morena]
And he is still searching the ship for unawakened Specialists like you.
I’ve done my own research, so there might be some margin of error, but I believe that Specialists are about one in every 3,000 people.
You should be able to understand what this means, right?
It’s true that Specialists are relatively rare abilities,
but on this ship, it wouldn’t be surprising if there were another 50 to 60 people with such abilities.
It would be ideal if we could find someone among them who shares the same "greater goal" as us.
At that point, it wouldn’t matter if it’s you or not.
In fact, he has already encountered several awakened Specialists.
One of them, he was especially excited about—apparently, he's a Floor Master of the Sky Arena, a well-known figure in the martial arts world.
The reason I said that the longer the negotiation drags on, the higher the risk for you, is because of that.
That’s all the explanation I have regarding the abilities.
[Borksen]
I'd like to hear more details about the Specialist category.
Especially, I’d like to know what kind of ability you would give me if you were to grant me one.
Page13
[Morena]
Hmm, that's a question closely tied to the "Yes?" and "No?" cards...
Let me first explain about the Specialist category.
To put it very simply, Specialists are incredibly versatile.
Other categories, like Transmuters, might struggle to learn abilities from other categories, such as Manipulators, due to practical limitations. But Specialists don’t have those kinds of restrictions.
If I had to mention a downside, it would be that Specialists sometimes don’t even realize their true potential and end up mastering another category, only to regret it later. That’s a common issue for those in the Specialist category.
So, if you're aware from the start that you're a Specialist, you can attempt high-difficulty techniques that require mastering multiple categories at a high level, or even abilities that don't belong to any category at all—truly unique, specialized powers.
By the way, I am also a user of a Specialist ability.
My ability, which makes acquiring Nen abilities and improving techniques point-based through becoming my ally, is a very unique and advanced hybrid technique—essentially a mix of all five other categories. It’s quite specialized and complex.
Naturally, I have specific requests for your ability, but I can’t share you just yet due to the card and its interaction.
Sorry about that.
If you specify the "Yes?" card, I will reveal what kind of ability I would want you to acquire should you choose to join the team.
This is less of a question about Nen abilities and more about the role you would be expected to fulfill once you become a part of the team.
Page14
[Morena]
Okay?
[Borksen]
Okay.
……No matter which card I draw from the remaining four, the number of choices will not change.
It seems that for any question other than Question A, she will answer to some extent even after the card is sent to the graveyard... It’s always beneficial to have more information about the opponent, but... the time risk she mentioned is also true... The decision of whether to drag out the game or not will come when the options are limited.
Page15
[Morena]
Oh... What a shame.
Has the decision been made that you won't join our team after the second card?"
[Bokusen( I dont know her English name)]
Her teammates are also disappointed... This further confirms that, at the very least, they haven't witnessed any cheating in the past...!
But optimism is not an option.
The real question is whether she ever had this negotiation game with someone who doesn't want to join her team...! If I’m the first, then those reaction is natural!"
Well, it can't be helped... I'll do my best until the end.
There is definitely a difference between 'No' and 'X'.
Don’t you want to know the difference?
[Borksen]
Yes
I'll follow your lead. With 'No?'card.
[Morena]
OK.
If the 'No?' card is left, I'll explain what happens next
Page16
[Morena]
The most important thing is the difference between the two, as I just mentioned.
'No' means you won't become our ally.
Whereas 'X' means the game itself becomes invalid.
'No' is considered a firm declaration of your intention, a rejection without turning back, a complete separation from us."
[Bokusen( I dont know her English name)]
So far, this is as expected... In the end, 'Yes' and 'No' are the same...
If it's a choice between 'Yes' and 'No', then 'Yes' is the only option... a kind of threatening moment meant to make you feel like there's no alternative…
[Morena]
…Basically, you and the people around you are seen as 'not part of our group.' To us, you're just part of the crowd... mere points to be used in order to achieve our 'purpose' and enhance our 'abilities.'"
I will no longer try to recruit you... however,
now that you've learned our secrets, we cannot simply let you leave without consequences.
[Borksen]
She’s saying that here, right?
In that case, it seems that the option for 'X' was never really in our hand to begin with.
The third trap...
The game itself is all a trap...!!
To make me say "Yes"...!!

Page17
[Morena]
If it were the "X" card, the situation where you learned our secret would be the same,
but we would consider the fact that you learned the secret—along with everything else—to be null and void.
This doesn't mean "erasing your memory," but rather that we trust you and will consider everything that happened here as if it never occurred. We will avoid any further contact with you as much as possible.
I won’t distort "everything as if it never happened" and, when we meet again, I won’t cheat by saying, "Nice to meet you, let’s play a game."
And, I will also make every effort to avoid involving the people around you.
Specifically, we will cross-reference the information we have obtained with the people you care about, share it with our group, and make every effort to avoid them.
Given the nature of our "goal," the most accurate expression would be "delaying them as much as possible," though.
[Borksen]
To save time, I'll ask directly.
There seems to be no benefit for you in the "X" card, and the risks are high! Even if you say "trust me," I can't trust you.
Could you explain the advantages on your side so that I can understand?
[Morena]
I'm glad you asked. I'll explain now,
but it will take a bit longer... The advantage on our side is that "the risk is high.”
Page18
[Borksen]
I see... a vow and a restriction... high risk, high reward.
[Morena]
In Nen abilities, this is a very important component.
If the negotiation fails after a serious showdown, it can't be helped.
Even if it involves great risks, I will accept it.
By preparing myself with this resolve and facing the game, my ability will grow stronger, allowing me to better support my allies.
The same applies to those who join our team.
By overcoming the risk that "if the last remaining card is 'No,' he dies," the bond and effectiveness will grow even stronger…!
...You're not very shaken
That's impressive.
I think it will get quite real when there are only two cards left, don't you?
Now, go ahead.
Page19
[Borksen]
With this,
the remaining cards are
'No (Death)' and 'R (Survival)'...!!
[Ship announcement]
Martial Law Declared!!!
Martial Law Declared!!!
This is not a drill!!!
I repeat!!!
This is not a drill!!!
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发表于 2024-11-22 11:16 | 显示全部楼层
就不的 发表于 2024-11-20 23:08
沐易部落那个分析吧,我觉得司法局把爱依依家划成平民以及基地位置确实能对的上凯撒玩过这个游戏然后**纵了 ...

沐易部落那个分析的很精彩,我看了好几遍,感觉说的挺像那么回事的。
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发表于 2024-11-22 11:23 | 显示全部楼层
### 全职猎人408话ai翻译:  
**第1页**  
**No.408 谈判 第二部分**  
【莫雷纳】  
轮到你了。  
选一张卡吧。  

**第2页**  
谈判游戏开始。  
【莫雷纳】  
是“目的”卡啊?为什么选了这张?  
【博尔克森】  
哈?可以随意聊聊吗?那我也可以谈一些其他的事情吧,不过没有惩罚,对吧?  

**第3页**  
【莫雷纳】  
当然。  
借这个机会互相了解一下吧。  
【博尔克森】  
嘿,这里还有其他成员吗?一共有大概50个人?  
【莫雷纳】  
呵呵,真会试探。他们是不会说话的。  
不过呢,确实有其他人,但……没有更多问题了。如果你想问,就用卡片来问吧。  
【博尔克森】  
当然,我选“目的”卡是想以此为决策的依据。  
那么,我也不会回答你的任何问题。  
【莫雷纳】  
啊……有点可惜呢……  
好吧,如果你回答我的一个问题,那你也可以问我一个问题。  
【博尔克森】  
谢谢。  
盟友的数量少于50……  
她反应很快,表情也没有僵硬,所以这个数量并不接近实际值……可能是大约一半左右……  
【莫雷纳】  
我的“目的”是摧毁卡金王国。在实现这一目标后,我计划推动人类的灭亡。  
为此,我需要你的力量。  

**第4页**  
【博尔克森】  
哈?  
【莫雷纳】  
哈?  
【博尔克森】  
你完全没解释清楚。  
如果100是完全理解的话,那我觉得现在我们只有3。  
【莫雷纳】  
哦……看起来你很好奇呢。  
要我先说说我的背景吗?  
你知道“赝品”这个词吗?  
【博尔克森】  
是指像你这样没有继承权的王族吧。  
【莫雷纳】  
真正的莫雷纳·普鲁多确实是那样……但我根本就不是王族。  
真正的莫雷纳早已在我的坟墓里了。  
【博尔克森】  
哈?  
那……你到底是谁?  
【莫雷纳】  
“狂欢”和“亵渎”——这些提示能帮你理解吗?  
【博尔克森】  
“狂欢孤儿”……我明白了。  

**第5页**  
【莫雷纳】  
是的,虽然念能力确实类似于超能力,但任何人都可以通过训练学会……  
也有一些能力可以让尚未觉醒念能力的人觉醒。  
我的能力也包括这一点。  
所以你不需要经历漫长的特别训练。  
【博尔克森】  
明白了。  
那你能具体说说你的能力是什么吗?  
【莫雷纳】  
好啊,  
简单来说,我的能力是赋予与我有相同“目标”的人力量,并扩大这个圈子。  
我是“父母”,而“子女”的数量限制为22个。  
当这些“子女”积累了一定点数后,他们可以成为“父母”并创建自己的“子女”。  
这就是我的能力……呵呵,有点像金字塔模式,对吧?  
我会根据每个“子女”的目标和特点,协助他们觉醒能力。  
【博尔克森】  
真聪明……  
不管是“目标”还是“能力”,她的解释方式都让我想了解另一个。  
如果我先选了“能力”,她不会进一步解释吧……!  
老实说……我们……  
不,我……  
一旦卡金不存在了,我根本不在乎什么使命、责任或国家防御。  
我们本以为的日常生活和模糊的未来,被别人的宏大野心打破了,真是让人不安和烦恼。  

(更多部分译文会按照顺序补充,您也可以指定重点页数)
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发表于 2024-11-22 11:34 | 显示全部楼层
流连成双 发表于 2024-11-22 00:39
看到这儿突然发觉这个打牌心理战实际上对四王子这帮老同学堪称特攻,这帮人对老四忠诚度本身就一般,惜命, ...

其实波克森一等兵(准协会成员)并不是四王子的朋友,把四王子当朋友的是5个私设兵二等兵。其中奥特辛和4王子的关系最特别。波克森是这5个人以及伍长以及蒂塔的朋友。四王子的5个朋友为了维持朋友关系希望保持现状,而波克森一直都想当国家公务员。
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发表于 2024-11-22 12:11 | 显示全部楼层
波克森的自白说明她是一个纯粹的日子人,比杨德的大计都给她的人生规划带来巨大的困扰,更何况莫莲娜的灭世计划了,比起对主君的忠诚,这更燃起了她的对抗意识
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发表于 2024-11-22 12:56 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
西团打架打了一卷,波墨打牌打了半卷
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发表于 2024-11-22 14:08 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 中二小旋风 于 2024-11-22 15:10 编辑

关于这个银趴的时间就很有考究

莫是银趴孤儿收容所98届的入住员,最新是20届,届的数字是年的最后两位,所以年份应该是1998-2020。

莫之后还有7届银趴。虽说不定期举行,也就是平均3年一次。

莫用了20年最近才成为爱家首领,和时间对一下,也就是最近也举行过

而莫口中银趴的开催者是“王室成员”,而不是说“王”,所以参加者并不只有回锅肉一个,

又因为卡金王室每次继位都要死斗剩下1位,所有王室成员其实并没有那些王爷王叔之类的。那剩下的参加者就只能是王子们了(王妃也有可能)

那按照王子们的年龄和上面举行的时间,很可能只有刚出生的14王子是干净无罪的。(说银趴只是图个方便,不一定要xxoo,也有可能就是单纯的折磨行为)

在大胆猜测一下,14王妃说王子们在成长过程中都会进行一些符合王者的教育,接受不了的下场很惨。这些银趴有可能是王者教育的一环(比如让王子们见证这些惨无人道的宴会,让他们心灵产生巨大的不安,再通过诉说弱肉强食的合理性,再让他们亲手参与,体会掠夺者的立场所带来的感受,通过认同“自己将来绝对是王者,而不是被掠夺者”来获得心灵的安堵)

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发表于 2024-11-22 14:46 | 显示全部楼层
还有莫的精神状态。

按照她说的身世,走到现在的想让卡金制度夸台,也算正常。但她的最终目标是毁灭人类,这就有点过了。

我猜测她可能还经历过一些导致人格崩溃的事。比如说真正的莫莲拿就是她杀死取代的。她发现自己受环境所迫后,和那些加害者也没有区别。最终导致人格崩溃,并产生终极的自杀倾向——毁灭全人类(包含自己)

特别是上一话表现过莫是主体性非常强的人,她很可能不会把自己为势所迫的杀人归咎到环境,而是归咎到自身选择,导致自毁倾向。

目前的爱衣家族家族成员估计都有这种自毁倾向。所以他们才能各自有各自的小的目标(比如毁灭卡金或者其他),但最终又能以毁灭人类的目标(毁灭自己)结合起来。这也是为什么他们在接吻前都进行过自相残杀的仪式,而且成员们都愿意这么做。


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发表于 2024-11-22 15:34 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
就是精神病报社集合体嘛。不过以目前墨莲娜的组织实力来说,别说毁灭世界了,就是杀几个王子都费劲。不知道富坚接下来要怎么安排墨莲娜获得毁灭世界的实力。

—— 来自 鹅球 v3.0.86-alpha
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发表于 2024-11-22 15:35 | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 2024-11-22 15:49 | 显示全部楼层

这两格笑死我了

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发表于 2024-11-22 16:00 | 显示全部楼层
就不的 发表于 2024-11-20 23:08
沐易部落那个分析吧,我觉得司法局把爱依依家划成平民以及基地位置确实能对的上凯撒玩过这个游戏然后**纵了 ...

不,更可能是目前爱衣家族的成员就是平民(因为各行各业都有),莫没有带原来的帮派成员上船(又或者带了,但当升级材料了),她自己结集了一帮普通人成员。

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发表于 2024-11-22 16:07 | 显示全部楼层
其实从全图可以看出来,狗狗侠本身就是受民众欢迎的职业摔角手,由此可知前面A家成员标注的职业就是他们的本职,这些各有背景的人因为共同的目标“杀戮”团结在莫莲娜旗下,旧的黑帮成员早被杀完了
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发表于 2024-11-22 16:13 | 显示全部楼层
我觉得在船上才零级开始没什么好处,为什么不在上船前就升级好。到底有没有认真的灭世
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发表于 2024-11-22 16:14 | 显示全部楼层
换句话说每个加入墨莲娜门下的成员都玩过这个牌局了,无一例外全部被洗 脑成为反社会战士。
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发表于 2024-11-22 16:17 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
特别戒严令应该会给凯撒、旋律和10、11这边带来很大危机,这下旋律应该落进老大控制中了……?渡航厅小哥也应该会发挥作用了吧
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发表于 2024-11-22 16:39 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 中二小旋风 于 2024-11-22 16:50 编辑
一心而用 发表于 2024-11-22 16:14
换句话说每个加入墨莲娜门下的成员都玩过这个牌局了,无一例外全部被洗 脑成为反社会战士。 ...

应该是自愿加入,但无论自愿与否,都得玩这个游戏。游戏本身是加强团队能力的誓约与制约

波克推测自己是第一个不愿意加入的游戏参与者
莫她们的目的应该就是找一个有毁灭人类意愿的特质系。如果波克不行就换人。不过波克是四王子私兵,所以优先试她。
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发表于 2024-11-22 17:04 | 显示全部楼层
波克和莫在价值观上,有一点根本性的不同。

波克一直强调如果选no的结果就是死,那就等于自己没得选。但其实宁愿选择死亡,也是一种选择,是自由意志的体现。

而莫一直强调的是无论选yes还是no,都得负起主体凭借意志作出选择后,其相应的后果。

波克目前对自己的人生是没有太大觉悟的,不知作者是想刻画她有所成长,还是因为没有觉悟而遭受惩罚,还是保持这漫画的初心:不选两难抉择
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发表于 2024-11-22 17:33 | 显示全部楼层
爱依依家族成员:让我们毁灭世界吧!
旅团:神经病
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发表于 2024-11-22 17:57 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
cdfjg 发表于 2024-11-22 16:13
我觉得在船上才零级开始没什么好处,为什么不在上船前就升级好。到底有没有认真的灭世 ...

可能是怕V5和猎人协会太早插手吧()
和蚂蚁一样,需要有一个封闭环境渡过发育期

—— 来自 HUAWEI ALN-AL80, Android 12上的 S1Next-鹅版 v2.1.2
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发表于 2024-11-22 18:14 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
cdfjg 发表于 2024-11-22 16:13
我觉得在船上才零级开始没什么好处,为什么不在上船前就升级好。到底有没有认真的灭世 ...

这也可能是誓约条件,不然这能力太便利了
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发表于 2024-11-22 19:21 | 显示全部楼层
钱如命 发表于 2024-11-22 17:57
可能是怕V5和猎人协会太早插手吧()
和蚂蚁一样,需要有一个封闭环境渡过发育期

没渡航前V5和协会不会管这种国家吧,他们慢慢杀人,慢慢升级。封闭环境都敢大规模杀人了
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发表于 2024-11-22 19:31 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
cdfjg 发表于 2024-11-22 19:21
没渡航前V5和协会不会管这种国家吧,他们慢慢杀人,慢慢升级。封闭环境都敢大规模杀人了
...

搞不太清v5对这种念能力有没有什么具体政策()说不定有什么预言家之类的
楼上说的誓约的一部分也有可能?或者要用到继承战环境的辅助之类的

—— 来自 HUAWEI ALN-AL80, Android 12上的 S1Next-鹅版 v2.1.2
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发表于 2024-11-22 19:37 | 显示全部楼层
渡航船这种环境才方便他们杀人升级的,船上本身就是为了继承战设计的大型养蛊场,下层平民也几乎没人管,不然普通的国家你去哪找这么多人杀还不被发现的或者不被反杀的,几乎不可能的
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发表于 2024-11-22 20:19 | 显示全部楼层
莫这个能力前期发育追求的是急速发展。所以需要人口密集的地方。因为越拖得久,越容易被警察发现,

加上能来渡航的平民,大多都是走头无路的人,少有人关心,失踪之到案发时间长

之前又说过船上警卫不足,下层需要黑帮维持秩序,就更方便了。
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发表于 2024-11-22 20:24 | 显示全部楼层
说到要毁灭人类,那跟比杨得去黑暗大陆,多带点手信回来,岂不是更快
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发表于 2024-11-22 21:27 | 显示全部楼层
对于爱依依家最好的结果就是杀光船上的人,然后去黑暗大陆带一船手信回大陆啊
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发表于 2024-11-22 22:04 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 蚊仔蚊仔蚊仔 于 2024-11-22 22:13 编辑

?(特殊戒严令的原因)
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发表于 2024-11-22 22:05 | 显示全部楼层
还…挺有感觉的…

不过这算王妃占便宜吧
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发表于 2024-11-22 22:12 | 显示全部楼层
波克森和蒂塔都是一等一的好人啊,怪不得能当闺蜜。


蒂塔察觉到4王子邪恶的成长性,明知事后会被判死刑,也要杀4王子。

波克森一个只求自保的日子人,听到墨莲娜的身世和计划,先是同情,但决心利用这些信息竭尽全力避免这场混乱。



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发表于 2024-11-22 22:41 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 الطائر 于 2024-11-24 15:08 编辑

墨莲娜自己的等级和盟友数目有关,45级 = 1 + 22 + 22,恐怕上一批22人死完了,现在的22人是上船后新传染的。

能力强化需要到51级,如果波克森选择加入,还需要再感染5人,刚好对应四王子的5个朋友?
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发表于 2024-11-22 23:31 | 显示全部楼层
这话还有一点很玩味:

莫说她妈侍奉了皇室的随从几天几夜没睡觉,并在她2岁的时候死了,甚至都不知道怀上了莫,也不知道生下了她。

到底是一种怎么样的情况导致不知道怀孕并生下小孩?精神失常了?还是说当时年纪太小,小到甚至不知道怀孕这事?
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发表于 2024-11-23 01:23 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
卡金王室这么堕落,感觉王子们部分还可以?


果然打牌是为了交待设定
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发表于 2024-11-23 01:42 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
四王子,爱一一家族,贩卖人kou,流星街,火红眼,串上了
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发表于 2024-11-23 03:04 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
还以为莫莲那是被四王子个人行为迫害成反社会邪教,现在王室内幕一披露,居然感觉a家整体精神面貌都正常了许多草

老九该不会是被银趴激反逆的吧,看他也不像是喜欢这种反人类play的



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发表于 2024-11-23 03:11 | 显示全部楼层
中二小旋风 发表于 2024-11-22 23:31
这话还有一点很玩味:

莫说她妈侍奉了皇室的随从几天几夜没睡觉,并在她2岁的时候死了,甚至都不知道怀上 ...

现在的翻译很有问题,狂欢节先是说一个月举办一次,后面又说是不定期举行,可能几年才会办一次

—— 来自 S1Fun
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发表于 2024-11-23 03:16 | 显示全部楼层
中二小旋风 发表于 2024-11-22 10:31
这话还有一点很玩味:

莫说她妈侍奉了皇室的随从几天几夜没睡觉,并在她2岁的时候死了,甚至都不知道怀上 ...

估计被玩得太狠,不是精神失常就是植物人了吧
莫回忆自己出生的时候,孕妇都是手上有镣铐的
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发表于 2024-11-23 03:23 | 显示全部楼层
我个人感觉,跟莫打过牌局(知道她的目的和能力,了解到卡金黑暗)但没有给出明确答复选择脱离的人可能比想象中的还多,毕竟对子女方来说这其实最有利的的选择
比如之前的王权威就可能是。他可以抱着 你干你的事,我干我的活,我心里默默同情并支持你,但行动上仍听命于于我的组织 这一类静观其变的心情
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