同样是正版问题，我所遇到很多方面都没有像游戏Z版这样计较过
比方音乐cd的买碟和下载，足球服、鞋子的Z版D版
难道真的是游戏玩家才闲得蛋痛 :vampire:
[国产RPG之友和当当教主] 攻擊:34 速度:57 防禦:74 命中:27 運氣:35 HP:248
攻擊:85 速度:51 防禦:60 命中:56 運氣:80 HP:230
国产RPG之友和当当教主 vs s1众 戰鬥開始!!
[国产RPG之友和当当教主] 的攻擊 失誤 成功迴避這次的攻擊。
的攻擊 擊中 [国产RPG之友和当当教主] 造成106的傷害。
[国产RPG之友和当当教主] 的攻擊 擊中 造成30的傷害。
的攻擊 擊中 [国产RPG之友和当当教主] 造成49的傷害。
[国产RPG之友和当当教主] 的攻擊 失誤 成功迴避這次的攻擊。
的攻擊 擊中 [国产RPG之友和当当教主] 造成70的傷害。
[国产RPG之友和当当教主] 的攻擊 失誤 成功迴避這次的攻擊。
的攻擊 擊中 [国产RPG之友和当当教主] 造成100的傷害。
將[国产RPG之友和当当教主]擊倒了！(回合數：4)
:D
老远跑来看看“国产RPG之友”:awkward:
这贴不留名对不起LZ啊……
好歹我也被日本RPG玩过……
只不过，鲁迅先生要是玩RPG估计也会选日本的吧……
已经忘记了是否留名了:awkward:
:P这种强贴是要留名的
我是从来不愿意战的。但是楼主实在看的我想骂他一顿，想想算了，还是保持点风度。
一句话，看的懂日版的看日版，看懂美版的玩美版，啥都看不懂的楼主别玩就得了。
e文版:
Change the title, the merger message to the moderator acknowledged he is a dead pig! -- Leftover others chew sugar cane, delicious? There is no doubt that Japan rpg finished off small, the government is doing only a handful, but the whole country, understand the Japanese have a few? Clearly, the majority is the Raiders been discovered grudging past. The so-called plot is fiction Is not choke foot pile of garbage to the letter? Moreover, this is in no way \"original\" is only a minor role to play their own personal game after \"spit out\" the feeling of it, is a pile of others chew the remaining sugar cane. Others let you waste residues continue to digest, watching a screen full of not understanding the language, listening to the birds do not understand, mind constantly illusion that \"the tremendous moved\" -- very, very touching ah! Unfortunately, you do not understand. \"Superior\" to the plot how the language barrier can not destroy the circumstances, For those people can only be a big empty talk, like glass across the room \"heating.\" Some people say -- like Oujiu game system, which can plot, Japan rpg creator of the game is high! The problem is for rpg, especially the majority of Japanese rpg, you \"play\" also called \"play\" rpg? -- Small plot to expand cultural, rpg indispensable component is based on language understanding on the basis of such unreasonable games thumb down We can only say that the taste of \"pie\" part of a fundamental sense, but not the letter of circumstances, Even if you wear a lot of playing time, and can not say that you had a real sense of the whole game. Moreover, the interpretation of others only one other comment on it, but in the absence of official recognition of the authority, You got a person from understanding the basic point is in itself a precarious state. -- As the editorial UCG how high can the Japanese standard? Japanese culture to perceive how much? Assumed that Japan is indeed a high game of the \"content\", then this \"content\" with Chinese quotes from perfect, - Knows the words is not going to solve the problem, we need a culture tellingly translators, are not officially authorized the drafting of the Taiwan body language can convey the beauty over? Account for the overwhelming majority of Japanese do not know how to \"play\" home run. You can never have no direct understanding of the Japanese RPG emotional expression, must always be depended on a \"wise man\" rhetoric, In other words, if you eat the leftovers of others chew sugar cane, but also a day of fantasy with flavor, how \"wonderful\"! -- If the fighting is really like, how the creator, I think you should play the game or action strategy game, instead of the day with a half-baked storyline RPG what it meant. So except for a small number of people proficient in Japanese, the usual \"play\" with the Japanese RPG paragraphs Niuhonghong on the guy. There is a group of \"sick.\" ... In fact these games have done to you is not playing, with \"value-for-money\" principle. Since Japan games cost so high, so high price is also very reasonable, honestly you buy legal copies of the game is paying homage to the best feelings prove ... I know no shortage of people buy authentic. However, in this country is highly unlikely, and the mainland PS2 licensed exposed the failure of this large group of people, ugly faces, To tell the truth, if the domestic game players really forum half of fanaticism, Sony will not lose so embarrassed. Official both want the benefits do not want to pay the price should be, a verbal false prosperity, In fact he is not action, this is the so-called \"Japanese RPG lovers\" duplicity. deceived the family of a Japanese manufacturer. -- Not many people \"worship\" ICO, the fate of two legends Mody, If it was you look down on the penny Sansibanzhiyi sales, now FF, DQ official Chinese version of us are no longer a distant dream, but I am afraid that not even a concept, Contrast this lady chat Han Tong also FANS, you do not feel ashamed? Originally playing piracy is a \"theft\", and saw the horses to be defamed in the games fun, Unfortunately there are people with their experience of many games to parade one\'s wealth, like a thief in the show off their goods abound. complacent with the victims. ... Actually, like Japan ACG culture, or expand to the whole of Japanese pop culture, playing RPG is the most useless way, which is both official and unofficial finished surface is the worst. but simply can not keep up with the trend, look at the animation group launched subtitles speed, RPG is a Chinese 罢了 drop in the bucket. -- Comics, animation, Japanese TV dramas and novels ... these translation Hanization no technical difficulties, Therefore, both official and unofficial levels should carry out much more deeply, but also deals with a much broader, grinding in the day to understand RPG, it is not \"sick\" of what? ... To sum up, not finished off the Japanese RPG is already only a handful of people of the Moon. not only need a cultural foundation, but we need financial support, and the purchase of original classical music CD is the same. However, in the now, Braving a group of Japanese RPG hat everywhere gesticulating pathological groups in the game forum is \"fueled\" the situation, This is what causes? Why not in the game. -- The so-called access to the game, then put the maximum should be TGL, FALCOM ilk, Europe and the United States and for the game, did not even travel packages \"bravado\", This is because the introduction of Europe and the United States compared to Japan\'s RPG works, or to the far more numerous. The key lies in \"show.\" -- Commercialization of the majority community to impose a fear of \"backward,\" the pressure Instead there is a \"temptation\" has always seemed to say something such as music or games extremely important. not listen No, not playing not, or is a \"loss of life\" similar. This is the business of consumerism evil traps, magazines and video game category is one of the most poisoned. UCG look at the life of the individual editors readme is not the \"buy ... buying ... bought ...\" -- to buy enough to buy? In fact, the game is a kind of entertainment, improve content does not need to broaden their horizons games, the Nintendo sales are high, The reason lies in the \"fun.\" -- I wrote a long domestic game comments, just from personal interests, hobbies, From do not want to prove their \"meaning\" what. In other words, if I really wanted to show that \"content\", so I love the wider context, will take several vulnerable to criticism of the game is concerned? But some domestic patients who just like to take a few games to prove their program content, My article has caused controversy, but speech touched on a group of people only a smug nerve. I now want to \"counterattack\" that Canal carried its most like \"Nordic goddess,\" \"diversity armored\" This matter can be proved that their taste and quality How low. ... -- We should not forget that you used to the pressure of \"content\" and not the game of how and so on. Therefore, in any way I can regardless of the game itself and, From this attitude things can be analyzed from knowledge and the cultivation of true : Let\'s look at the diversity of armor, from the names of the chapters of the game can be seen creating undoubtedly is a Nietzsche FANS, But you these \"diversity FANS\" have read several original works of Nietzsche? You really \"like\" Nietzsche? Nietzsche said to overthrow all idols, and you will understand that the right of such a commercial game sacrosanct. thanks to \"God\"? Whether from language, or from the philosophy of common sense, This so-called FANS heap they have some really understood the game? But is \"applying\" image. -- This game marked with \"content\" unjust showed the heart of these dastardly, A group of alleged white involuntarily? (Some people like to cite how the sales exactly is a \"terminally ill\" and it because you are no longer with their feelings, \"playing a\" game, but in playing with others, Zhao\'s ideas of others to play it.) ... Now let\'s look at the Nordic goddess, a few people dared to stand up and say that they read the kingdom? There Wagner Long-song? -- Wagner of the Foundation for the \"Long-Wagner\'s Ring\" complete heard of who? Opinionated group for the mentally handicapped, had come to see a game point on Nordic mythology seems like discovering the New World, It\'s like everyone knows face with a German Japanese film, \"Journey to the West\" to display their rich oriental culture \"content\" and so on, not to mention Japan and Germanic cultural difference but miles apart ... as long as the right of these ancient culture of Germany had contact with the people (such as books, music), VP is not going to the so-called \"content\" What is the feeling! -- Most of the player of Nordic myth shallow understanding, but after a fantastic literature transfers transfers hands again got to the or from UCG is not professional on the line with a few now, is it not? With the strength of the \"content\", it is with a manufacturer\'s Road, in itself, is no special meaning to the performance! Therefore, the more people not content, the more susceptible to such intentional misleading, like getting more prospects demonstrate their \"content.\" Ha ha ... (Come one, determined to link the Nordic myth of the game, at least in the Beat-Jihad (believers) Europe and the United States do the work seriously, VP is absolutely essential. Otherwise, creating a white \"Japanese than German also understand Germanic myth\" of the joke, I can help you, sorry ...) ... Top line with the reality of society, not to remove the white beliefs, those who rely on game day holding our own \"superior\" In reality what is the figure? Just imagine, if a person really, as said in its played lots of games, what kind of life his son? ... His personal day-to-day life, or work (if there are any), but also by the respect of others? Remove the game industry those who work in the game for all of us is only a part of life. it is not the most important part, it is neither associated with survival. not with the \"soul\" relevant -- their all into the game, open 1:00 to ACG, What will be a \"sick\"! -- The same kind of people either at home or abroad, are in reality most people are not even think much of this category of people, usually suffered are beneath contempt, or ridicule is to be the target of everyone. Now, these people go to the Internet to the swaggering, incidentally, would also like to breed several generations, not collusion Be a \"younger brother\" who me, beware!
日文版:
調整器にタイトルを、合併メッセージ認めた彼をある死んだブタが変えなさい! -- 残りは他おいしい砂糖きびをかみ砕くか。 日本人に少数があることを終わる日本RPG小さくないが、政府が握りだけしているが、全国は、理解する疑いないか。 はっきり、大半は発見された惜しむことである侵入者である。 いわゆるプロットは手紙へフィクションでない廃物のチョークのフィートの山であるか。 さらに、これはそれの感じを「」吐いた後絶対に「原物」である自身の個人的なゲームをするただのマイナーな役割、である他の山咀嚼残りの砂糖きびでない。 他は残余を無駄にすることを可能にし、言語の理解なのスクリーンを十分に見消化し、続け理解しない、「動く」途方もないの錯覚を絶えず気にするために鳥を聞く -- 非常に、非常に感動させるああ! 不運にも、理解しない。 プロットへの「言葉の障壁が情況をいかに破壊できないか目上の人」なぜならそれらの人々は部屋「暖房を渡るガラスのような大きい空話だけ、である場合もある」。 何人かの人々言う -- 計画できるOujiuのゲームシステムのように、ゲームの日本RPGの創作者は高い! 問題はRPGの特に日本RPGの大半のため、「する」また呼ばれた「演劇」 RPGをであるか。 -- 文化をのRPGの不可欠な部品拡大する小さいプロットはそのような不合理なゲームの親指に基づいて言語理解多くの遊ぶ時間を身に着けていても、基づきが全ゲームの実質の感覚を有したと言うことができない私達がとだけ基本的な感覚の「パイ」部品の好み言ってもいい、情況のない手紙に。 さらに、他の解釈は基本的なポイントの理解からそれの、しかし権限の公式の認識、がない時の1つのただ他のコメント人をであるそれ自体不安定な状態得た。 -- 編集UCGとして最高が日本の標準をいかに缶詰にするかか。 どの位感知する日本文化か。 日本全く「内容」あると仮定される、そして中国語が付いているこの「内容」の高いゲームが完全から引用する、-単語私達がtellingly必要とする文化訳者を、である公式に承認されなくて台湾のボディーランゲージの起草美を運んでもいい問題を解決しようとは思っていないことを知っているか。 日本語の圧倒的な過半数のための記述はホームランを「する方法を」知らない。 他の残り物を咀嚼の砂糖きび食べれば、また日、いかに「すばらしい」ことができない味の想像の「賢い人」の修辞に常に依存する、すなわち、決して日本RPGの感情的な表現、絶対必要の直接理解を有する! -- 戦いがのように実際にあれば、創作者が、私いかに考えるか意味した何を生焼けのstoryline RPGの日の代りにゲームか行為の作戦のゲームを、するべきである。 そう日本語に堪能な少数の人々を除いて日本RPGの通常の「演劇」は人のNiuhonghongをパラグラフに分ける。 ある「病人のグループが」。 実際は…これらのゲームは「価値のためお金」の主義とあなたに遊んでいない、した。 日本以来ゲームは従って最高要する、従って高い値段はまた非常に適度、正直に…私は確実な人々の買物の不足を知っていないことをゲームの法的コピーが最もよい感じに尊敬を証明する支払っている買物である。 熱狂、ソニーの国内実際にゲームプレーヤーのフォーラムの半分が失わなかったり従って当惑したら但し、この国に非常にまずなく、真実を言う認可された本土PS2は、醜い表面この大きい集団の失敗を、露出した。 実際は役人は両方利点が価格を支払いたいと思わない、ことばによる偽の繁栄ある、べきである彼でない行為、これであるいわゆる「日本RPGの恋人」のduplicityほしいと思う。 日本の製造業者の系列を欺いた。 -- ほとんどの人々はICO一見がペニーのSansibanzhiyiの販売、今ffでおろせばそれが、の2つの伝説Modyの運命を「崇拝しない」、私達のDQの公式の中国語版はもはや遠い夢でないが、均一概念が、女性雑談のハンこのはさみファンをまた対照すること私は恐れている、感じない恥じているか。 不運にも最初に海賊行為をすることは「盗難」、ゲームの楽しみで中傷されるべき馬をそこにである商品を離れてショーの盗人のような、行進する多くのゲームの経験の人々富富む見た。 犠牲者と満足そう。 …実際に、日本ACG文化のように、または日本の大衆文化の全体に拡大しなさい、RPGをすることは公式の、非公式な終えられた表面が最も悪い無用の方法である。 しかし促進する、RPGは傾向、生気のグループによって進水させるサブタイトルの一見にであるバケツの中国の罢了の低下単に遅れずについていくことができない。 -- 従って何のこれらのコミック、生気、日本TVの戯曲および小説…翻訳Hanization公式技術的な難しさおよび非公式なレベルははるかに深く遂行するべきでなくがまた大いにより広いのを取扱い、RPGのそれを理解するためにでない「病人」日にひくか。 …要約することは、日本RPGを離れて終えられなくて既に月の一握りの人々だけである。 文化的な基礎しか必要としてはいけない、しかし私達は財政援助を必要とし、元のクラシック音楽のCDの購入は同じである
其实我想说的是
楼主真TM纱布..瞧一个语言把你给难的..
好吧 我这个也是用GOOGLE翻译的:awkward: :awkward:
:( 作为游戏论坛的版主,我觉得很惭愧,每次强者出现的时候我都没赶上
为了表示对强者的敬仰,特此回帖
PS:强者一定是冲者今年的强者大赛冠军来的!我看好你
原帖由 michaelakan 于 2007-6-17 03:20 发表 http://bbs.stage1st.com/images/common/back.gif
:( 作为游戏论坛的版主,我觉得很惭愧,每次强者出现的时候我都没赶上
叫你“玩”日本游戏！！
楼主是个人才:awkward:
从14页的回复就可以看得出来
楼主的话 是多么的贴近群众啊:~(
我只玩语言是英文的东西，因为我看得懂，而且还能对我英语水平有一点点帮助。所有的日式，欧美RPG都是这样。除了FF12，因为我当时决定先只玩系统，剧情无视。
我不干涉人家玩什么东西，更不会高高在上对别人口诛笔伐。虽然我也很讨厌某些看剧情攻略的剩饭之后跟人说好感动啊的那种人。>:o
p.s. LZ看看GameFAQs的XG版或者labyrinthos.org看看人家的研究成果，狂热度不比这里低哦。OTL
要说内涵，实际上都是专业人士吃剩下的，我们再来咀嚼一下而已。流行文化不都这样么。何必要以推某种流行文化而贬低另外一种呢，只因为某种是“民族的”是“我们的”？那只能说你傻逼了。它们是“世界的”，都是“我们的”。
[ 本帖最后由 Ocarina 于 2007-6-17 08:33 编辑 ]
LZ,你要常来啊~~~~
先来看看异度装甲，从该游戏各章节名称就可以看出主创毫无疑问是个尼采FANS，但是阁下这些“异度FANS”又有几个看过尼采原著呢？阁下真的“喜欢”尼采吗？
又一个没弄清XG和XS区别的233
上次那帖就说了，LZ那么不喜欢这里不喜欢这里的大家，动不动就说S1的人怎么样怎么样，那你最好别来，你来干什么？该滚到哪里就滚到哪里。
我是真不想在这里回，14页全看完了，
我也是想骂LZ很多难听的话，不过不会骂在S1
大家继续日LZ吧
强贴，留名慢慢看
这帖还有人顶啊
原帖由 星空寂 于 2007-6-17 09:06 发表 http://bbs.stage1st.com/images/common/back.gif
先来看看异度装甲，从该游戏各章节名称就可以看出主创毫无疑问是个尼采FANS，但是阁下这些“异度FANS”又有几个看过尼采原著呢？阁下真的“喜欢”尼采吗？
又一个没弄清XG和XS区别的233 ...
呵呵，事实上高桥是打着尼采的旗号反尼采才对。:D
我觉得吧,如果LZ的用意是炒做宣传的话其阴毛应该早已达到了.无论宣传的是个人还是网站.
标题已改，说明版主承认自己是“死猪”喽！
强者原来没死透啊。。。诈尸啦。。。:awkward:
抬头抓小鸟
低头吃香蕉
原帖由 gerbillinae 于 2007-6-17 09:52 发表 http://bbs.stage1st.com/images/common/back.gif
标题已改，说明版主承认自己是“死猪”喽！
阿Q说，儿子打老子，儿子打老子
楼主魅力四射
我再也潜不下去了
浮起留名``!
好吧，我就是好VP，管它内涵否。
广大人民群众是否可以有些权力去“欣赏”那些通俗的文化作品？ 在他们的层次远远达不到内涵的前提下。
玩盗版的确实不应该张扬显摆，但讨论总不至于是犯罪，毕竟内容上和正版没区别，讨论起来也没区别。。。都是活生生的人类感受，怎能以光盘是否是z版来限定？
[ 本帖最后由 mの草原 于 2007-6-17 10:20 编辑 ]
原帖由 gerbillinae 于 2007-6-17 09:52 发表 http://bbs.stage1st.com/images/common/back.gif
标题已改，说明版主承认自己是“死猪”喽！
注册协议写着OBEI OR DIE
自己都卖肉了还要标榜处女么
强者又不见了:sweat:
好吧!留名...........
原帖由 gerbillinae 于 2007-6-17 09:52 发表 http://bbs.stage1st.com/images/common/back.gif
标题已改，说明版主承认自己是“死猪”喽！
meltina:我本来就叫猪冬
听外国歌曲，听不懂词不是照样欣赏么，楼主有毛病
而且，楼主的意思是打国产RPG的众人门就不看攻略？
原帖由 gerbillinae 于 2007-6-17 09:52 发表 http://bbs.stage1st.com/images/common/back.gif
标题已改，说明版主承认自己是“死猪”喽！
强者百折不挠，死而不僵，诈尸还魂。
这精神是何等的可歌可泣啊。
233max
:``: 我怎么觉得此人有死赖皮耍泼皮的倾向,听说还是大学在校生?典型的三流学历九流素质.
雷帝：“人类的智商，没有下限。”
“ 群众，──尤其是中国的，──永远是戏剧的看客。牺牲上场，如果显得慷慨，他们就看了悲壮剧；如果显得觳觫，他们就看了滑稽剧。北京的羊肉铺前常有几个人张着嘴看剥羊，仿佛颇愉快，人的牺牲能给与他们的益处，也不过如此。而况事后走不几步，他们并这一点愉快也就忘却了。 对于这样的群众没有法，只好使他们无戏可看倒是疗救…… ”
所以说这样的贴子越多越热闹……
原帖由 trA 于 2007-6-17 12:56 发表 http://bbs.stage1st.com/images/common/back.gif
“ 群众，──尤其是中国的，──永远是戏剧的看客。牺牲上场，如果显得慷慨，他们就看了悲壮剧；如果显得觳觫，他们就看了滑稽剧。北京的羊肉铺前常有几个人张着嘴看剥羊，仿佛颇愉快，人的牺牲能给与他们的益处，也不过如此。而况事 ...
不论是悲剧还是滑稽剧，多看都有益身心。
强者你一定要参加年底的强者大赛呀。
原帖由 上班族 于 2007-6-17 13:03 发表 http://bbs.stage1st.com/images/common/back.gif
不论是悲剧还是滑稽剧，多看都有益身心。
强者你一定要参加年底的强者大赛呀。
这话是对鲁迅说的么。。。。。