Tyranny讨论专楼

luciffer

http://store.steampowered.com/app/362960/

价格还好，估计到时200的overlord edition伺候

话说最近要投钱的游戏扎堆。wasteland 3，33刀；ai war 2，20刀。再加上这个

万劫夜

没中文，希望文本不像柱子那样复杂

灰色的狐狸

11月。。淦啊
怎么什么乱七八糟东西都堆在11月了
11月有三rpg啊。。

setree

没有预购欲望，等杉果打折
打折了就差不多有中文了

Nosgoth

定价跟torment一样，出了再说。

GA_Frank

出得太早了，痛苦

alann

感觉这游戏有点像当年黑曜石说的想出一个西斯统治世界，建立西斯帝国的情节，只是去掉了星球大战的title。

luciffer

You’re a Fatebinder — part judge, part police officer, part military general, part adventurer-for-hire. One of the highest authorities in the land,

The ragtag rebellion should be an easy fight, but the Disfavored and the Scarlet Chorus can’t agree on tactics. As a result, the Overlord’s massive armies sit stagnant while the opposition grows stronger. You’re sent down to the Tiers to — *ahem* —convince the two armies to work together.

Your weapon? An Edict. Basically a magical contract infused with the Overlord’s power. This one’s addressed to the leaders of the Disfavored and Scarlet Chorus, and says “Stop wasting time fighting each other. Take over this city within eight days or everyone in the entire valley will die.”

帝国海军和帝国陆军在扯皮，天皇陛下很生气。就从特高课挑了个人，让他八天之内解决问题。否则上高达

luciffer

My first time through the prologue, for instance, I opted to visit the city of Apex and, with my well-honed diplomatic skills, managed to hash out a peaceful surrender of the armies within. Later, upon encountering the revolutionary troops in the actual game, they called me “Peacebinder” and were willing to negotiate with me.

My second time through I avoided Apex entirely, and all those dialogue options disappeared. No more Peacebinder, no mentions of how honorable I was, and the revolutionaries were enraged at how poorly the city had been treated under one of the Overlord’s other emissaries.

my impression is a game where character really matters. You will not be able to see everything Tyranny has to offer in one playthrough. It’s simply not possible. There’s a natural parallel between Tyranny and Fallout: New Vegas in that respect, though here the various factions are less “shades of gray” and more “shades of black.”

雪毛

创建角色
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgDYerwiQ6s

sandro

204的版本走起了

luciffer

llysander 发表于 2016-10-18 12:07
已经看到了 Lawful Evil 忠诚屠夫线 ， Chaotic Good 反抗军的希望线 和夹在当中许许多多的篡位 ...

In our demo, we played as a fighter on the rebel side, defending a fort against two invading factions at once. But upon reaching the final boss battle, we decided to take that anarchy option, betraying the rebel forces while remaining hunted by various other factions. Frey laughed, basically suggesting that we had set our character on a very difficult path. But it's a path that Tyranny leaves open to players at all times.

五月.com

废土3我投了75，是第5000多号，等着送游戏 - -

Tyranny已经入了overlord，这游戏我觉得画面挺好的，战斗场面好热闹

llysander

既然那么多勇士也怒踩一脚204了

sj13020

估计玩完这个就可以玩到神界原罪2了

kwkch

高级版是不是没有什么dlc含在内的？只为玩游戏买个基础版是不是就够了？

Nosgoth

kwkch 发表于 2016-10-19 20:50
高级版是不是没有什么dlc含在内的？只为玩游戏买个基础版是不是就够了？

是的，预定个commander版，其他的附加内容都可以3dm下。

luciffer

能掏120的怎么会在乎再多掏80

顺便提一句，ai war 2的20刀估计我是掏不出去了。10天了连五分之一都不到，可惜可惜

trentswd

黑曜石多喜欢豪华版送小说
不是说送小说不好，但是poe的赠品目录里面小说一直coming soon，而且钦定的作者早就跳槽了

灰色的狐狸

已预订Overlord Edition
请组织放心

GA_Frank

trentswd 发表于 2016-10-20 09:57
黑曜石多喜欢豪华版送小说
不是说送小说不好，但是poe的赠品目录里面小说一直coming soon，而且钦定的作者 ...

去看看吧，大约一个半月前已经发布了，各种格式还有音频。

zy3618

在杉果买了普通版

luciffer

From what I've played, I get a sense that morality really doesn't play much of a role in Tyranny at all. Every choice feels ambiguous because they're all within the context of such an authoritative, cruel empire. What's it like designing choices and a story that have no moral center?

I think the main thing we were looking at is that the moral center for the player is whatever makes them feel powerful and important. Playing a Fatebinder in Kyros' empire is a very different power fantasy. It's not being the hero who saves the world, it's like, some of your choices are going to be whether this guy gets executed or condemned to be a slave. Having the ability to make those decisions, as awful as they can be, is fun and enjoyable in a lot of ways. It's not about just being a dick for a dick's sake, sometimes you have those options and they can be fun, but we always want to give context and advance the player's objectives. How does this make them feel more powerful?

Nosgoth

https://www.twitch.tv/paradoxinteractive/v/95973861

游戏导演和tim cain试玩，感觉老tim比辐射的时候看着年轻了啊。

另外淘宝上的overlord才180不到，买了套，哈哈。

trentswd

GA_Frank 发表于 2016-10-20 10:09
去看看吧，大约一个半月前已经发布了，各种格式还有音频。

看了一下还真有，居然填坑了 惊了

五月.com

GA_Frank 发表于 2016-10-20 10:09
去看看吧，大约一个半月前已经发布了，各种格式还有音频。

咦 没想到在这里碰到TROW的版主了。版主好，我是论坛里的lloydsun

GA_Frank

五月.com 发表于 2016-10-22 13:22
咦 没想到在这里碰到TROW的版主了。版主好，我是论坛里的lloydsun

老爷好，我只是版上无足轻重的一行名字。

luciffer

I find the prisoner strapped to a pole in the center of camp. Beaten and broken by her captors, she's immediately willing to spill her secrets in exchange for her life. But as I question her, I realize that she isn't telling the truth. Using one of Tyranny's dialogue skill checks, I'm able to call her bluff and reveal her lies. Her facade crumbles and she begins begging for her life, and, wanting to be a good person, I take pity on her.
But Fifth-Eye isn't moved by her pleas. To him, her attempt to deceive us is a crime punishable by death. I stop him, but realize then the predicament that Tyranny has put me in. If I override Fifth-Eye's authority in front of his soldiers, that would harm my relationship with the Scarlet Chorus and jeopardize our mission. Even worse, Fifth-Eye's aggressive nature has me worried he might be dumb enough to fight me. But if I standby and let him kill this prisoner, wouldn't I be complicit in this woman's death?

I manage to convince Fifth-Eye that there's another option. The Scarlet Chorus has a reputation for absorbing the armies they defeat into their own ranks, and I urge him to let this woman decide her own fate by taking on a rite of initiation. For a moment, I feel proud that I managed to solve the problem without bloodshed. But then it's revealed that her initiation means savagely murdering her fellow prisoners with nothing but a rock. After all, she needs to prove she's loyal to her new masters.

pgain2004

准备解锁了

奈良円光

开搞开搞~迫不及待去当坏人了诶嘿~

灰色的狐狸

解锁了，当个讨论楼？

Nosgoth

预载的各位记得把送的dlc全部消除再勾选一次，默认没下载。

奈良円光

……被一上来的阅读量吓尿了，一个小时才搞完。
然后发现DLC物品没拿到，只好从新选一次orz

Nosgoth

注册个paradox账号登入一下送把剑，比我开始拿的铜剑好不少，以后说是还有每日奖励......

灰色的狐狸

唉，果然两个军团一言不合打起来了。。

luciffer

嗯，改讨论吧

- 第一个角色用war mage出身，冰魔+空手，计划用太君的方式来

- 一开始conquest部分，第一个城主要是选解决手段，分别对应一个技能：减伤回血、火云掌和隐身（我估计这个跟职业有关）。第二个城二选一，选的武器制造那个，主要是平衡皇军和皇协军的控制权的感觉。第三个城三选一，选的图书馆，除了继续找平衡外，还涉及到了图书馆知识的保存问题，但应该不管怎样都会被天皇的核弹炸掉

luciffer

这次鼠标悬停在关键词上有额外说明了

pgain2004

luciffer 发表于 2016-11-11 09:35
这次鼠标悬停在关键词上有额外说明了

而且分色，绿色提示过去选择真是大好评。