findpkq 发表于 2017-1-26 12:41
不知道是经销商自主行为还是港任有参一脚。。。
微博看了圈性质好像和当时psvr ps4pro的情况类似，上边高价 ...
想多了，港任根本没有公关团队。
ajunsama 发表于 2017-1-26 12:22
还是不首发了 发售过一两个月再看吧
你变了！
qianoooo 发表于 2017-1-26 12:30
主要是香港这边进机器要带两盘碟是常态，PS4PRO这种机器就要多买两张盘才能提货，但是这次老任全球保证供 ...
全球首发200W 到处断货 某些奸商还炒到3000
哪里充足了
还是出货太少了也有绿帽子首发的关系 有点火爆
P-link 发表于 2017-1-26 13:54
全球首发200W 到处断货 某些奸商还炒到3000
哪里充足了
嗯。。。现在看来是个问题啊，wiiu都首发300w这样的
qianoooo 发表于 2017-1-26 14:05
嗯。。。现在看来是个问题啊，wiiu都首发300w这样的
这次任地狱首发出货很保守
本帖最后由 ashunicorn 于 2017-1-26 14:32 编辑
翻译了一下reddit上原OP的帖子——————————————————————————
Before theactual rant, I must say that watching the Switch presentation and hearing theword "Hong Kong" had gotten me so excited. They didn't even bother tolaunch the Wii U here (all we get are imports) so it is a real surprise to evenhear the place being mentioned in the presentation at all. Much unexpected forit to officially launch on March 3rd here, like Japan/US/etc.在我正式开喷前，我必须承认说之前在看任天堂发布会的时候，听到“香港”这个词的时候我兴奋了一把。任天堂之前甚至连WiiU都不在香港发布（都是进口其他区的）因此在发布会上被提及还是一个很大的惊喜的。更没想到的是三月三号香港和日美区一样是官方首发。Anyway, Nintendo had never officiallydid much in Hong Kong before the release of Pokemon Sun/Moon.话说回来，任天堂在小畜生日月发布前在HK从来没有这么官方注重过。Background背景(Skip if too long)（太长可不看）Nintendo of Hong Kong released theofficial pricing of HK$2340 (which is roughly the same as the US retail price)on their official website shortly after the presentation, and mentioned thatpre-orders starts the 21st.任天堂香港在发布会后，很快就在官网上公布发售价是2340港元（和美帝零售价差不多），还有预定日期是21号开始，However, immediately after the presentation,at least one game shop had already started accepting pre-orders, which was morethan a week ahead of the official date, and more game shops follow suit notlong after that. A lot of them claimed guaranteed availability on launch day,some even stated that the set with neon Joy-Cons will also be available andthat stock is adequate.但是，就在发布会之后不久，至少一个电玩店就开始接受预定了，比官方的预定日早了一礼拜，然后有很多其他电玩店跟风也这么干了。这些电玩店不少保证首发日就能拿货，甚至有的直接说彩色Joy-Cons套装也能拿，而且货很足。(Note that in Hong Kong, we don't havehuge video game chain stores, but mostly relatively small shops selling gamesand consoles. There are other chain stores that do sell gaming systems, butthey didn't touch on the Switch.)（提示一下，在香港并没有什么大型连锁电玩店，大多数是小店，有些其他的连锁店也卖，但是没卖Switch。）As time passed by, some shops started torequire customers to also pre-order games with the Switch. Also, some startedto limit the quantity of pre-orders on the neon Joy-Cons set, even tellingcustomers that already pre-ordered the set to switch (no pun intended) to thegray set.接下来，一些电玩店开始要求顾客和Switch一起预定游戏，同时还有一些电玩店开始限制彩色Joy-Cons套装的预订人数，甚至连那些已经预定过了的都被换成灰色版本。So, a day before the"official" pre-order starting date, Nintendo of Hong Kong published alist of stores accepting pre-orders, which is a complete joke. All of which arethose game shops which had already been accepting pre-orders for some time(except the one on the list that was already closed down when the list waspublished, lol,) and no chain stores on the list.所以，在“官方”预定日之前，任天堂香港发布了一个能接受预定的电玩店官方列表——结果是彻头彻尾来搞笑的。这些所有在列表上的店都已经早早接受预定好一段时间了（除了有一家实际上已经倒闭了，笑死），而且没有一家是连锁店。Now, almost all who pre-ordered theSwitch are forced to also "pre-order" 1-2 Switch and BoTW, nooptions. Some are even forced to get two more games. Also, apparently therewill be ridiculously few neon Joy-Cons sets available at launch, so a lot ofthe pre-orders are changed to the grey set.现在，绝大多数已经预定的人被迫连同1-2 Switch还有荒野之息都得跟着捆绑预定了，而且别无选择。有些甚至还得强迫多买两个游戏。而且，很明显彩色Joy-Cons套装在首发时候肯定会少得可怜，一大堆预定的人都得被换成灰色版本。Most (if not all) shops allow cancellingpre-orders with full refund, which seem to indicate that they aren't even worryof not getting customers.大多数电玩店（如果不是全部的话）允许全额退款取消预订，也就是说他们其实根本就不怕缺来买的人。Rant开喷了1. The shops outright lie on the stockavailable, especially for the neon Joy-Cons set. They wereprobably accepting pre-orders before they even know the amount of Switches theycan get on launch day. Or that they were just luring customers intopre-ordering from the shops. Bait and switch (no pun) all the time.奸商们在供货情况上是完全在骗鬼，尤其是彩色Joy-Cons套。他们十有八九是在他们知道发售日能拿到的数量之前就接受预定，或者就是给冤大头顾客下套让他们在自己的店里预定，从一开始就是在下套。2. They force customers to pre-order games asa bundle, and we don't even know how much they will charge for the two games. It mayseem absurd, but according to many it "has always been this way" inHong Kong in the past. Why can't we just pre-order the console like in othercountries? If only imports are available, then fine I get it, the shops can dowhatever they want and charge however they like. But with Nintendo officiallyreleasing the Switch here, why could they even pull the same shit? 奸商们强迫冤大头预定游戏捆绑，而且冤大头还不知道这捆绑的还要再掏多少钱。虽然看上去很操蛋，但是这在香港一直以来都是这个德行。为什么不能像其他地方一样预定？如果只能靠进口别的区的机子和游戏，好吧我懂了，奸商们可以随意漫天要价。但是任天堂这次是官方发布，为什么他们就不能和其他地方一样公事公办？Because Nintendo of Hong Kongdoesn't fucking care. They just want the money. They don't care whatthe shops or the distributor do. They don't care how much customers are rippedoff. And then the distributor as well as some game shops rip customers off andthey get away with it.因为任天堂香港根本就TMD不鸟，他们就是想赚钱。他们才不鸟那些奸商或者批发商做了什么，也不鸟多少冤大头被奸商剥削了多少钱。然后那些批发商和奸商狼狈为奸一起成功把把冤大头们宰了揩油。3. They make up and change the rules, even forthose who already pre-ordered and paid the deposit. They force customers to also buy1-2 Switch and BoTW (or more) at launch at the same store. If the customersdon't agree, the shops will happily cancel the pre-order and refund the customerbecause they can then sell the Switch at a higher price. To put it simple, ifthe customer wants the Switch at launch, they either have to accept thepre-order conditions, or pay a higher price at launch because there obviouslywill not be enough stock available that day, and there exists customers who will pay for ahigher price for it (assuming if there are even enough stock for thepre-orders.)奸商瞎编并且改了不少规定，连那些已经预定了还交了定金的也没法幸免。他们强迫顾客在店里买上面提及的两款游戏。如果顾客不同意，奸商会欢天喜地地取消预订并且全额退款给顾客，因为他们还能卖更贵。简单来说，如果顾客想要在首发拿到主机，在货源不足的情况下要么老老实实接受这个鸟事实放弃预定，要么多交钱被坑，而且本来就有一票的人愿意多交钱被坑拿货了（就算货源充足也是一样）。It is also speculated that some shops(or even the distributor) sell their stock to mainland China for huge profits.而且可以推断说这些奸商（或者批发商）把这些货卖到大陆赚巨额利润。Overall, I am super disappointed on howNintendo of Hong Kong has been handling the release of the Switch (or the lackof handling at all) so I decided to just not buy the Switch from game shopshere. I've pre-ordered from the Japanese Nintendo Store, but if they decide tocancel my order (which I really hope they don't,) I'll just wait for it to berestocked at a later time and import one myself, even if this means I will notbe able to play on the Switch for some time after launch. I'm not giving a centto those game shops for the Switch.总的来说，我对任天堂香港的所作所为（或者干脆不作为）是失望透顶的，所以我干脆不在香港买了。我已经在日本的任天堂商店订了一套，但是如果被砍单了（希望不会被砍），我就等货源足的时候再海淘一个了，就算没法首发玩，我也不会在这些垃圾店上花一分钱。I just wanted to rant because I am sofed up of this bullshit Hong Kong mentality.我之所以想喷是因为已经受够了香港这个鸟地方。tl;dr: Game shops in Hong Kong are dicks.
另外：香港的电玩店都是辣鸡。——————————————————————————https://www.reddit.com/r/NintendoSwitch/comments/5pwow7/rant_buying_the_switch_in_hong_kong/——————————————————————————我记得任地狱HK也是神游在管的，可能这个OP不知道
之前买PS4必须再买个手柄的也是香港吗
这是任天堂干的还是底下经销商干的 喷之前能动下脑子么
喷的好。
Game shops in Hong Kong are dicks
49L就比较清楚了，奸商确实可恶，之前PS4也有吧，记得也要一起买什么的。
但港任对经销商完全放任也说不过去。
谁叫你们要首发啊
买首发的都是什么人，都懂，所以只能忍咯
你连最爱的人的屎都不敢吃，凭什么说爱她
shit002 发表于 2017-1-26 11:46
Zelda沒問題,但是不想買12Switch.......哭了,怎麼這麼對待新加坡市場呢?
小国寡民
就给你强买强卖
顺便就不给你出货PS4pro，外国卖不出去也不给你发货
本帖最后由 83913536 于 2017-1-26 17:09 编辑
vorastrix 发表于 2017-1-26 11:41
“Xbox天蝎座强制同捆舞力全开2017和光环战争，不买就取消你订单”
新闻如果这样的话，底下评论绝对骂声一 ...
同捆舞力全开和炸弹人的话肯定是骂声一片，捆个首发多半会买的当然对大多数人是没影响再说，港货一直都这德行
croix 发表于 2017-1-26 17:08
微软捆啃奶加100刀瞬间傻逼，索尼任天堂捆绑地区歧视限量耍猴贵出千元买买买，不得不服 ...
啃奶不玩跳舞基本卵用没有，还是官方全球统一喂的s，强制卖了这么多作为第一方至少也该多在啃奶的游戏性应用上多做点类似playroom vr之类的探索吧，结果是只管卖不管用。性质上差太多了，就不用一起讨论了吧。
qqq2142 发表于 2017-1-26 13:51
你变了！
穷人是这样子的
sha bi ren tun
sha bi ren tun
索索看到大家矛头没有指向任地狱，急了直骂任豚
这是为了防止黄牛吧
又在唱双簧自嗨了
不是，又不锁区，为什么要买港版？便宜点买个日版美版不好吗？
鹤巻和哉 发表于 2017-1-27 12:44
不是，又不锁区，为什么要买港版？便宜点买个日版美版不好吗？
……其实目前来看，日版反而是最贵的，两道税
港版强行搭游戏卖而已，价格好像没问题
欧美运费问题
恶极无道，罪大滔天
绿冰 发表于 2017-1-27 12:46
……其实目前来看，日版反而是最贵的，两道税
港版强行搭游戏卖而已，价格好像没问题
欧美运费问题 ...
第二道税只有很小的概率要交，第一税后，说1+2switch同捆也就2250左右，算运费200,也比去香港买便宜得多。
pf67 发表于 2017-1-27 14:56
第二道税只有很小的概率要交，第一税后，说1+2switch同捆也就2250左右，算运费200,也比去香港买便宜得多 ...
除非人肉，不然第二道算不上很小的概率吧
要便宜还是欧洲那边直邮的好
法亚直邮预定，反正到发货前都是按最低价结算，现在又降了。+运费+税290欧。而且也不是没有机会退税。满足了。
绿冰 发表于 2017-1-27 14:59
除非人肉，不然第二道算不上很小的概率吧
要便宜还是欧洲那边直邮的好
直邮没试过，不过我在日站上买的走转运还从来没有被税过。
ふむふむ 发表于 2017-1-26 11:56
ps4刚出来的时候是不是捆绑那个knack的？
不是 我去排的首发 三个游戏选一个 AC:黑旗 2K14和KNACK…而且可以一个都不选。
玩WiiU版botw，NS随便你们抢
—— 来自 ZUK Z2131, Android 7.0上的 S1Next-鹅版
那么港版的zelda是英文还是日文的?
不会是中文的吧
qianoooo 发表于 2017-1-26 06:25
心疼一波新加坡
去过两次狮城 老任基本都是美代游戏而且也只有经销商没有正规的游戏店。。。游戏卖的也不 ...
口袋有活动正常啊，欧美都有合作店的，本来就是全球向的活动那就少不了
这不能给老任加分
本帖最后由 C.W.Nimitz 于 2017-1-29 12:46 编辑
dpheix1 发表于 2017-1-26 02:34
啃奶不玩跳舞基本卵用没有，还是官方全球统一喂的s，强制卖了这么多作为第一方至少也该多在啃奶的游戏性 ...
psvr索尼已经卖光了，之后就关了rig的开发组，原来预订支持psvr的几个游戏也悄悄把页面取消了，这就是肯奶头二，没比微软高明多少