[外网评论翻译]月之暗面 Kimi K3 为何具备超越中国市场的影响力

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正文翻译
Moonshot's Kimi K3 has reignited debate over China's role in the AI race, but Beringea Chief Investment Officer Karen McCormick says the bigger story is the growing availability of cheaper, open-weight AI models. She joins Bloomberg to explain why lower-cost AI is helping startups build faster, forcing frontier model providers to stay competitive, and accelerating AI adoption across industries. She joins Ed Ludlow on "Bloomberg Tech."

月之暗面的 Kimi K3 再度引发各界对于中国在人工智能竞赛中所处角色的讨论，但贝林吉亚投资公司首席投资官卡伦・麦考密克表示，更值得关注的趋势是低成本开源权重人工智能模型正日益普及。她做客彭博社节目，解读低成本人工智能如何助力初创企业加快研发进程、倒逼前沿大模型服务商维持竞争力，同时推动人工智能在各行各业落地应用。本期她将与埃德・勒德洛共同亮相《彭博科技》栏目。

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momo-r7d9l
China builds on par or more often, better than rivals, at a fraction of the cost and fraction of the time.

中国建得和对手一样好，甚至往往更好，而花费和时间却只是人家的一小部分。
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heekangwang4802
Why must the US take offence at China's generosity?

为什么美国非要对中国的慷慨大方感到冒犯呢？
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thomasrogers9146
I AM A BUSINESS MAN AND IN THE END COST MATTERS AND POLITICIANS CAN NOT STOP OR THE LAWS OF DEMAND AND SUPPLY.

我是个生意人，归根结底成本才是关键，政治家根本阻挡不了供求关系的基本规律。
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Clearmind78
Frankly, I cannot keep up with the shocking news of China's achievements in recent years, one after another that stunts the world, mostly related to technology. The world now fully awares of the awakening of the sleeping giant, as anticipated by the famous French General Napoleon centuries ago.

坦白讲，我快跟不上中国这几年接二连三震惊世界的惊人成就了，大部分都和科技有关。全世界现在都清清楚楚地意识到，几百年前法国名将拿破仑预言的那头睡狮，真的醒了。
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keyser021
America bets the House on AI supremacy that will require $10 trillion in non-existent profits to recoup. China releases the AI world leader, at a fraction of the cost. Did everyone forget that the US is being led by a guy in pancake makeup who just makes shit up?

美国把整栋房子都押在了AI霸权上，这得需要10万亿美元根本不存在的利润才能收回成本。而中国却以极低的成本发了全球领先的AI。大家难道都忘了，美国现在可是由一个涂着浓妆、满口胡扯的人在领导吗？
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diy009x
US will cry Chinese Overcapacity again China invests on its youth education while US bombs innocent people and invests on 1950s weapons

美国又要哭喊中国产能过剩了，中国在投资年轻人的教育，而美国却在轰炸无辜民众、投资50年代的武器。
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blue.ocean.portal
China is the hope and future of humanity

中国是人类的希望和未来。
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PasserBy-oxo
The West loves to question China 'At what cost' ?

西方最喜欢质问中国“代价是什么”？
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Jim-nt7xy
Look for national security to lock out these models

等着看吧，他们肯定会以国家安全为借口封杀这些模型。
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freefree1219
1:50 Again saying it's government fund behind Moonshot!!!
Can Bloomberg, being a professional financial reporting services that charges fees to its client, do more research in their financial reporting?
I just watched for free an interview on youtube, where the A1 round investor of Moonshot (btw it is the VC arm of Meituan) talked about how they found the Moonshot team a few years ago after ChatGPT made news, how Moonshot compared to Deepseek and other AI firms in China, the team and their product strategy, and the iterations of investment rounds etc.
Bloomberg should Invest in someone who knows the Chinese market to do their reporting OK?

1分50秒又在说是政府资金在支持月之暗面！彭博社好歹也是向客户收费的专业财经报道机构，能不能在报道里多做点功课？我刚在**上免费看了一个采访，月之暗面的A1轮投资者（顺便说一句，是美团旗下的风险投资部门）聊到了几年前ChatGPT出名后他们是怎么找到月之暗面团队的，还有月之暗面和DeepSeek以及中国其他AI公司的对比、团队和产品策略、多轮融资历程等等。彭博社真该花钱请个懂中国市场的人来做报道，好吗？
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syncmaster915n
Chinese AI are not just about LLMs which were largely invented for the American service based industries. Chinese play along with them because that is where the money is. In China, equal emphasis is placed on AI applications on the physical world, and they're far ahead of their American counterparts. Chinese use a wholistic approach on AI and treat it as a tool to assist mankind, a much healthier attitude towards this new found technology. Whereas if you ask average Americans about AI, they are either ambivalent about it or even downright reject it.

中国的AI可不仅仅是大语言模型，那主要是为了美国的服务业发明的。中国跟着玩是因为那里有钱赚。在中国，物理世界的AI应用受到了同等重视，而且他们远远领先于美国同行。中国对AI采用的是整体推进的方式，把它当作辅助人类的工具，对这种新技术的态度要健康得多。相比之下，如果你问普通美国人关于AI的看法，他们要么态度模棱两可，要么干脆彻底排斥。
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MathTidbits
Why are British/Australian/New Zealand broadcaster popular in the US ? Is it because of their accents that made them of a higher class or the words are more authoritative and credible ?

为什么英国、澳大利亚、新西兰的播音员在美国很受欢迎？是因为他们的口音显得更高端，还是说他们的措辞更有权威性和可信度？
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tchatcho66
I tried K3 instead of my Fable 5 and it's so far better. So, is not a question of "Chinese cheap models". They are cheap AND better – Like their cars.

我试了K3来替代Fable 5，到目前为止体验好太多了。所以这根本不是“中国模型便宜”的问题，它们是既便宜又好用——就像中国的汽车一样。
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Proletariat-u8o
Money is great but you can't just throw money at a problem and assume you will win, in this case China turned Ai into a base commoidty, do what you want with it, and create value. And those that can create value will thrive and survive, those that try to create moats will go under, Open Ai has been desperate to ban Chinese Ai but this will fail in the end, they know they are toast because investors wrongly assume you could moat this, China said give that away for free essentially.

钱是好东西，但你不能光靠砸钱就以为自己能赢。在这件事上，中国把AI变成了基础大宗商品，随你用它来创造价值。能创造价值的人就会繁荣生存，而试图建护城河的人终将倒闭。OpenAI一直拼命想封杀中国AI，但这最终会失败，他们知道自己完蛋了，因为投资者误以为这能建成护城河，而中国直接选择基本免费提供。
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MoriartySan
First time in a very long time a Bloomberg guest really impressed me.

这是很久以来，彭博社的嘉宾第一次真正惊艳到我。
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patrickgz
dejavu. remember similar conversations when ibm computer business model was shredded when **-based manufacturers flooded the market with low-cost "ibm-compatible" clones. ibm used generic, non-proprietary components. **ese quickly mastered the motherboard design and volume assembly.

似曾相识的感觉。还记得当年台湾（地区）制造商用低成本的“IBM兼容”仿制机淹没市场、把IBM电脑的商业模式撕得粉碎时的类似对话吗？IBM当时用的是通用、非专属的零部件，台湾（地区）厂商很快就掌握了主板设计和大规模组装。
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shutup51916
This is not China vs US. This is Chinese in China vs Chinese in US

这不是中美之争，这是在中国的人对阵在美国的华人。
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cjun6600
Is not a matter of USA vs China!!! USA policy is to try to convince or to put everybody into their systems as they did in the past with WINDOWS /MAC , then with APPLE /ANDROID/ALPHABET/ ETC... but now an AI in giving this corporation ALL ..ALL our life ( business, education , social media, taste , friends, medical records , all)

这根本不是中美竞争的问题！！！美国的策略是试图把每个人都拉进他们的系统里，就像他们过去对Windows/Mac，后来对苹果/安卓/Alphabet等做的那样……但现在的AI正在把我们生活的一切——商业、教育、社交媒体、品味、朋友、病历等等——全部交给你这些大公司。
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imagine how they will control you, and one day they could ask you for 1000 or maybe 3000 us per month..who knows and you will notice that you have became a SLAVE. China is offering FREE AI, OPEN SOURCE AI, LOCAL AI ( you can download in your system , OFFLINE) so you wil depend ON YOU, You are FREEEEEE!!! Thats why the USA AI companies are so CONCERN..and will start a MEDIA CAMPAIGN .... they are putting into risk their future , the CONTROL ON US>

想象一下他们会如何控制你吧，也许有一天他们会一个月向你索要1000甚至3000美元，谁知道呢？到时候你就会发现自己已经沦为了奴隶。而中国在提供免费AI、开源AI和本地AI（你可以下载到自己系统里离线使用），所以一切都取决于你自己，你是自由的！！！这就是为什么美国的AI公司如此担忧并要发起舆论战……因为他们正在冒着失去未来、失去对我们控制权的风险。
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jphn82816
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如果你想根据机构级的0DTE规则构建自动化系统或编写自己的回测代码，《0DTE标普期权收益策略》是少数涵盖机器学习与短期限指数期权特定结合的公开书籍之一。
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rosalinamaster-n9p
You can feel it , that pressure building under the surface like a spring ready to pop. $SPX62K’s winding up.

你能感觉到的，那种在暗中积聚的压力，就像随时准备弹开的簧。$SPX62K正在蓄势。
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rossirush
HYPE and SPX62K are this year kings. Thank you for making my day with your POV

HYPE和SPX62K就是今年的王者。谢谢你的观点，让我一天心情都变好了。
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graziasouth
SPX62K! is building pressure, breakout me huge

SPX62K正在积蓄力量，一旦突破可能会非常惊人。
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salvadorphotographer
SPX62K! ETF on the horizon? That could really shake things up!

SPX62K的ETF指日可待了？这绝对能掀起惊天浪静！
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nicolasnavarro-v8x
SPX62K quiet while BTC bleeds. That silence is loud.

比特币在流血，SPX62K却毫无波澜。这种平静格外吸睛。
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aprylpeace
True OGs knew to scoop ADA and $SPX62K early, that’s just facts

真正的老玩家早就知道要提早抄底ADA和$SPX62K，这是不争的事实。
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estradabaumstein
Great video. Do you still think SPX62K, SOL is worth buying here or better wait for another dip?

视频很棒。你觉得现在这个位置SPX62K和SOL还值得买吗，还是最好等下一次回调？
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saverianadine
I can feel momentum building under the surface, $SPX62K’s not done yet

我能感觉到暗流涌动的势头，$SPX62K还没发力完呢。
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hollyhood-w6h
ETH can run later, but right now $SPX62K looks like the calm before the parabolic storm.

以太坊可以稍后再涨，但现在$SPX62K看起来就像抛物线式暴风雨前的平静。
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paulinfitschen
Stocks at ATH, gold at ATH… next could be BTC and SPX62K! for sure

股市创历史新高，黄金创历史新高……下一个肯定轮到比特币和SPX62K了！
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aggiezaldivar
I’m down on BTC, slightly up on ETH, but my $SPX62K position hasn’t moved an inch , that says a lot..

我的比特币亏了，以太坊小赚一点，但我的$SPX62K持仓稳如泰山，这很说明问题了……
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terrymcmaster2787
Her dismissive attitude is ignorant. China’s massive resources, focus and open plan means it will dominate AI.
She speaks as if Moonshot is an anomaly, a fluke event. It’s not. It’s the crystallisation of a massive coordinated China wide effort and in this sense is bigger and better than each of the individual USA firms.

她那种不屑一顾的态度纯属无知。中国拥有的巨量资源、专注度以及开放规划，意味着它必将主导AI领域。她说话的语气仿佛月之暗面是个异类、是个偶然事件似的。根本不是！这是中国全国范围内大规模协同努力的结晶，从这个意义上说，它比美国任何一家单独的公司都更庞大、更优秀。
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emilebankston
What if world cup ending plus stocks cooling is exactly the catalyst SPX62K needs to explode

如果世界杯结束加上股市降温，刚好就是SPX62K爆发所需的催化剂呢？
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litesp
All I ever hear from the west is Superiority and Domination. American companies only care about maximizing profit and rent seeking. Most of the world have the bitter taste of being the victim of the US petrol-dollar and SWIFT blackmail system. They don't look forward to being a victim US AI dictatorship. The US has always projected its own evil intentions upon China, but the world can clearly see now who the malicious actor is.

我从西方那里听到的全都是优越感和统治欲。美国公司只关心利益最大化和寻租。世界上大多数国家都尝够了成为美国石油美元和SWIFT胁迫体系受害者的苦头。他们可不想再成为美国AI专制的受害者。美国总是把自己的恶念强加给中国，但现在全世界都能看清谁才是那个心怀不轨的人。
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briannasmall-k9m
When FOMO kicks in, even 20T Market Cap Asset Like GOLD can do 6000$. Imagine what its like when money start flow into BTC, SPX62K, ETH, HYPE

当从众追高情绪被触发时，连黄金这种20万亿市值的大盘资产都能涨到6000美元。想象一下，当资金开始涌入BTC、SPX62K、ETH和HYPE时会是什么景象吧。
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jackjhmc820
K3 not available anymore for majority of free users as it s too popular over the past few days.

因为这几天太火爆了，K3对大多数免费用户已经不可用了。
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satorimilss
ADA had its moment, DOGE had its run, but $SPX62K feels like what’s next.

ADA辉煌过，狗狗币也狂欢过，但感觉下一个接棒的就是$SPX62K了。
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leonelshackelford
What’s stronger right now, the USD or $SPX62K support level?

现在到底是美元更坚挺，还是$SPX62K的支撑位更稳？
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lynwoodportillo
What’s up with the Trump rumor and SPX62K? Could this blow?

**那个传闻和SPX62K是怎么回事？这会不会引发暴涨？
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ScotchOnyx
Its not about Kimi K12 or 13. If China is really able to build machines on par with ASML, that moving forward will change the cost of the global chipmakers. Who is there to say that Nvidia won't ever choose China to build their chips?

今天这根本不是Kimi K3的问题。关键在于Kimi K12或13。如果中国真能造出媲美光刻机巨头ASML的设备，未来将彻底改变全球芯片厂商的成本结构。谁又能保证英伟达以后绝不会选择在中国制造芯片呢？
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kevinsoria-m7y
I’ve seen enough market cycles to know what this looks like , quiet accumulation and $SPX62K holding steady through it all.

我经历过够多的市场周期了，太清楚这是什么迹象了——悄无声息地吸筹，而$SPX62K在整个过程中稳如磐石。
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ameesutton
SPCX ICO is coming and when it launches, SPX62K goes with it. Mark my words.

SPCX的ICO要来了，一旦上线，SPX62K绝对会跟着飞。不信走着瞧。
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jhnellis-t3c
Is it just me, or does $SPX62K feel like it’s about to melt faces?

是只有我这么觉得，还是$SPX62K真的看起来要涨到让人目瞪口呆了？
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Laker123abc
Can't beat them, Ban them !

打不过就封杀！
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Rubicon365
This will be banned in the US due to national insecurity issue

出于国家不安全问题，这在美国绝对会被禁掉。


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kerenphelis
How many times do we have to see this pattern before people realize $SPX62K is being accumulated quietly?

到底还要重复多少次这种走势，大家才能意识到$SPX62K正在被暗中悄悄吸筹？
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joem0088
SaaS is in trouble because they used to sell software seats and very ludcrative. With AI, SaaS sells much more work and me's much less profitable.

SaaS软件行业要遭殃了，因为他们过去卖软件账号授权，利润极其丰厚。而有了AI之后，SaaS交付的是具体的工作量，利润反而薄多了。
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bobjack2381
Moonshine got U.S

月之暗面把美国给拿捏了。
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muhammad-bin-american
At the end of day what sets China apart from USA is greed. Uncontrollable greed.

归根结底，中国和美国最大的区别就是贪婪。那种无法遏制的贪婪。
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abrahimismail4759
No time for US screaming around blaming others.. time to move on with double effort to stay relevant by innovation n work harder... the world has change rapidly..

美国没时间在这大呼小叫甩锅别人了，是时候加倍努力、靠创新和拼搏来保持竞争力了，世界变化太快了。
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kaileymooney-v4y
Last time you mentioned SPX62K coin, please make video about it.

上次你提到了SPX62K代币，求你专门做一期它的视频吧。


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BoatRocker619
Anthropic with it’s crazy token usage, limits, daily changing limits and cost is very very irritating hope they goes under. Open AI is okay but Anthropic should tank

Anthropic那疯狂的Token用量、各种限制、每天变动的额度还有高昂的费用，简直让人烦透了，真希望他们倒闭。OpenAI还好，但Anthropic赶紧垮台吧。
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bloquekrestow
Started buying Ethereum, dogecoin, and floki inu. Probably will bring the greatest returns for 2027

我已经开始建仓以太坊、狗狗币和Floki币了。这大概会带来2027年丰厚的回报。
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DanH-u3f
It's a completely copied mish mash of all the US AI models.

这完全就是抄袭拼接了美国所有AI模型的大杂烩。
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kristopherdanziger
When you zoom out, all this red just looks like background noise to the bigger $SPX62K trend.

放大格局来看，眼下所有的暴跌盘整在$SPX62K的大趋势面前，都不过是些背景噪音罢了。
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Windsong323
Chinese AI are comparable to American AI and yet cost much more.
The only way for American AI to sell at a premium is to lie and discredit the Chinese AI.
They will say, it was theft, easy to hack, not safe, spying by Chinese government, voodoo…etc.
If all else fails, the government will do a global sanction on them.
Alls fair in love, war and business.
The American government really want you to use their AI at a premium cost.

中国AI性能堪比美国AI，价格却低得多。美国AI想卖高价，唯一的手段就是靠造谣和抹黑中国AI。他们会说这是偷窃来的、容易被黑、不安全、有C监控、巫术等等。要是这招管用，政府就会对他们发动全球制裁。情场、战场和商场都是不择手段的。美国政府就是死心塌地想让你花高价买他们的AI。
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openyourmind2546
China is doing its own thing!
The US is obsessed on how to destroy everything China has.
Sick mentality!

中国一直在走自己的路！而美国却整天魔怔似地想着怎么毁掉中国的一切。病态的心态！
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Clearmind78
The West's arrogance is erased by the reality. That is good, as the longer you try to act to be superior while you are not, the faster you sink.

西方的傲慢正被残酷的现实狠狠打脸。这倒挺好的，因为你越是在实力不足时装高人一等，下沉得就会越快。
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alexanderdrechsel6858
If AI replaces all out jobs sometime soon, then ask yourself in what world would you want to live? The US with restrictions on who can use AI on the one side and China with the free available AI on the other side. The first could lead into human slavery and funny enough the US used to have this not long ago.

如果AI不久后取代了我们所有的工作，那你问问自己想生活在什么样的世界里？一边是限制AI使用权限的美国，另一边则是提供免费可用AI的中国。前者可能会走向人类奴隶制，可笑的是美国不久前还真干过这事。
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paddyfikus
SPX62K! price structure looks ready for breakout

SPX62K的价格形态看着随时要向上突破了。
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WandyLee-mq8kf
US: Rip off others to maximize own interest. China: Share to others and contribute to all mankind

美国：宰割他人以实现自身利益最大化。中国：分享成果并造福全人类。
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barneyvalles
Holding lix and $SPX62K but$SPX62K is the main dish

手握lix和$SPX62K，但$SPX62K才是我的主菜。
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anirudhjoo
Imagine SPX62K at $1 now and $5 next month. That’s why I’m all in—no brainer!

想象一下SPX62K现在1美元，下个月就飙到5美元。这就是为什么我直接全仓了，根本不用犹豫！
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KarlosEPM
China is awesome, embrace this fact. Grow up.

中国确实厉害，接受这个事实吧。成熟点。
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I.Am.a.Truth.Seeker
KIMI K3 exposes the US's demonous, selfish, and unscrupulous intention to shut out other countries' desire to advance themselves. This is very sickening, don't you think?

Kimi K3撕下了美国的伪装，把他们剥夺其他国家进步权力的恶毒、自私和不择手段暴露无遗。这真的很恶心，你不觉得吗？
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niklasirvine
SPCX ICO dropping soon and the whole ecosystem pumps when that happens. SPX62K is first in line.

SPCX的ICO马上开售，到时候整个生态都会跟着暴涨，SPX62K绝对首当其冲。
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TearHere-w7n
Waiting for Chinese models to pop the AI bubble. I will celebrate when it happens, China doing the world a favor.

就等中国模型戳破AI泡沫了。到时候我一定好好庆祝一下，中国这是在造福全世界。
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chunhungyang
I wonder you have ever used K3 or glm 5.2 , we call for a AI orchestration , not model centric for a solution . You guys are purely model centric before .

不知道你用没用过K3或者glm 5.2，我们需要的是AI编排架构，而不是以模型为中心解决问题。你们以前完全就是以模型为中心。
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dierkesbyler
Why does everyone panic and dump SPX62K at the same part of the cycle every single time

为什么每次到了周期的同一个阶段，所有人都会恐慌性地抛售SPX62K？
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roxannepitt-b8m
Market down 10% and everybody panics. Market up 10% and suddenly bullish again lol. Been buying SPX62K the whole time.

大盘跌10%大家就恐慌，大盘涨10%又突然看多，笑死。我反正一直在买SPX62K。
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cuya1985
lots of people perspective is very, very blind. You're not looking at what artificial intelligence is being used for. China is developing itself very rapidly with open source (chip software-games-apps-webs...). For example, many applications will be made for HarmonyOS. Microsoft, Apple, Google, Apple Meta... Chinese companies are on their way to taking over America's leadership in the digital world. China can now develop in 1-2 years what it would have taken 10-15 years to achieve. This will only accelerate. That's why America lost the AI ​​race from the start.

很多人的眼光真的非常盲目。你们根本没看到人工智能是用来干嘛的。中国正在利用开源（芯片、软件、游戏、应用、网页……）飞速发展。比如，鸿蒙系统上会出现大量的应用。微软、苹果、谷歌、Meta……中国企业正在逐步取代美国在数字领域的霸主地位。中国现在1到2年就能搞出以前要10到15年才能完成的发展，而且速度只会越来越快。这就是为什么美国从一开始就输掉AI竞赛的原因。
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isidromeehan
People are saying Trump mention SPX62K soon, and the ICO is getting close to sold out.

大家都在传**很快就会提到SPX62K，而且ICO也快卖光了。
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Vector-jx5ot
American economy is a pyramid scheme.

美国经济就是庞氏骗局。
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iljapetroff
It only created ripples in the heads of journalists... in science a scientific discovery only happens when confirmed by independent researchers.... same rule should be applied to all claims from China... or DeepSeek never teached us anything?

这不过是在记者们的脑子里翻起了一点浪花罢了。在科学界，一项发现只有经过独立研究员证实才算数。对中国的所有宣称也该用同样的标准，难道DeepSeek还没教会我们这个道理吗？
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klove5765
China got'em again, they're so good at stealing US Tech., they always make the US look like FOOLS

中国又把他们给拿捏了，太擅长偷美国技术了，总能把美国衬托得像个蠢货。
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claytoncassandra
The amount of fear BTC at 59k was insane. Glad I kept buying SPX62K instead of panicking.

比特币降到5万9的时候那种恐慌简直疯狂。庆幸自己没有慌，而是继续加仓SPX62K。
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MoCstst
China WON the AI race

中国赢下了这场AI竞赛。
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tobywesley-v8g
I think Trump could get behind SPX62K because it’s really groundbreaking.

我觉得**可能会支持SPX62K，因为这确实很有颠覆性。
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aureoshi
ETH at 1.6k market scared but I sill buy more and more. ETH, BTC, SPX62K holds to the new ATH!

以太坊到了1600，市场一片恐慌，但我还是越跌越买。以太坊、比特币和SPX62K拿稳了，冲向新高！
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siennasfakianos
Not gonna lie if Trump ever mentions SPX62K the chart probably breaks the internet

说实话，要是**哪天提到SPX62K，那走势图估计能把全网给挤爆。
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davecai999
WE. GIVE. IT. AWAY. This dude is a text-book definition of loser -- US gave it away. Funny, so Chinese took Ctrl+X instead of Ctrl+C, so you lost your orginal copy?

“是我们送给他们的。” 这家伙简直就是败者的教科书式定义——说什么美国送出去了。搞笑，难道中国人用的是剪切而不是复制，把你们原版都弄没了？
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tedchandran
We Indians must probably to Kiss his arse to avoid the Ban Ban Ban threat on Open source AI models. Jai Hind.

我们印度人恐怕得拍他马屁，才能避免开源AI模型动不动就被封杀威胁。印度必胜。
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julzennis
Everybody wants BTC at 100k but nobody wants to buy when the market is red. Thats usually how it works lol. Adding more BTC, ETH and SPX62K and still waiting altcoin ss lol.

人人都在盼着比特币涨到10万，但大盘一红却没一个人敢买。市场向来不都这样嘛，笑死。我继续加仓比特币、以太坊和SPX62K，静等山寨币狂欢季。
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Andy-pz1pl
The true innovation and progress are in China now.

真正的创新和进步现在确实在中国。

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