真要说的话，那猎奇的日本人的红发紫法蓝发不是更应该吐槽吗
TM摆明一开始就没打算过执着正常发色啥的啦....... 比起傻吧 我更在意撒哭啦的发色。。。。。 http://bbs.saraba1st.com/2b/read-htm-tid-861300-page-1.html
这张帖子很好的回答你 引用楼主Quetzacoatl于2012-12-05 01:52发表的 [呆毛王] 其实我觉得比起变性，更让人纠结的是发色的改变 :
即使是在prototype里面，旧剑也是金发碧眼的。
而真正的亚瑟王以及他的血脉应当是非常深棕色的头发。
尽管有说法是亚瑟小时是金发后来才变黑；但是显然在fate故事中的亚瑟是来自他/她的晚年，无论是女版还是旧剑。因此saber应当是深棕色或黑发才对。
我不想说什么"脱亚入欧"之类上纲上线的话，可是比起性别，这个发色是更加不能解释的。为什么反而没有人吐槽蘑菇呢？ images/back.gif
TM設定亚瑟(阿爾托利亞)拔出石中剑后肉體停止成长 亚瑟王是虚构角色好不好，哪来真正的亚瑟王应该是深棕色或黑发之说？
http://www.camelot4colors.com/Arthur.jpg Glastonbury, in addition to many other places, like Caerleon and Tintagel, has been linked to King Arthur. This link though, at Glastonbury, is in death rather than life. The connection of the Isle of Apples or Avalloc, to Avalon was thought to have been first made in about the 12th century and then reported by William of Malmesbury the interpolator, in his De antiquitae Glatoniensis ecclesie and Geoffrey of Monmouth in his Historia regum Britanniae.
Arthur was the legendary English King - 'Arthur of the Britons', before Saxon times. He was born out of wedlock and raised by wizard Merlin. When only a boy, after many men had tried and failed, Arthur gained the throne by withdrawing the magic sword Excalibur from a stone. The nearby Cadbury Castle, at North Cadbury supposedly became his 'Camelot'.
After his many exploits and stories concerning his Knights, the Round Table and the Holy Grail, he was wounded by Mordred at the battle of Camlan. This was around the year 542 and he was then taken across the water to the Isle of Avalon for his wounds to be healed. Glastonbury would indeed still have been an island at that time, so it was quite possible for a boat to bring him to the only place where any medical attention was available, which would have been at a monastery - Glastonbury Abbey. Arthur was mortally wounded however and it is said he was buried in the cemetery on the south side of the Lady Chapel, at Glastonbury Abbey. He was buried between two stone pyramids and at great depth.
Centuries later (in 1191) prompted by hints and rumours, the monks excavated this same spot in the cemetery and they dug down sixteen feet, to find an oaken coffin. At a depth of seven feet they found a stone beneath which was a leaden cross with an inscription His iacet inclitus Arturius in insula Avalonia - variously interpreted to read 'Here lies King Arthur buried in Avalon'! The coffin contained two bodies - a great man and a woman, whose golden hair was still intact, until touched, when it crumbled away. The bodies were said to be Arthur's and Guinevere's.
A century later in 1278 the bones were placed in caskets and transferred during a state visit by King Edward 1, to a black marble tomb before the High Altar in the great Abbey Church. There they remained until the Abbey was vandalised after the dissolution in 1539. No one has seen, or heard anything of them since.
Legend proclaims that after Arthur's death, a powerful spirit haunted the ruins of the Abbey, appearing as a black-armoured knight with red glowing eyes and a burning desire to eradicate all records of the ancient Arthurian legends, which is why, it is said, that those seeking to discover the truth, find so few facts available.
Today a notice board marks the spot of Arthur's final resting place. Occasionally people lay flowers there to honour this mighty King whose life and death gave birth to so many myths and legends. These mystical tales that still envelope Glastonbury Abbey in a cloak of mystery add to its profoundly rich and timeless history.
以上来自格拉斯顿伯里的官方网站 引用第10楼stawberry于2012-12-05 03:32发表的:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_Arthur
罗马人(黑发)或者凯尔特土著（深棕色）。敌人反而是金发。 images/back.gif
维基百科里明明说：“Although several historical figures have been proposed as the basis for Arthur, no convincing evidence for these identifications has emerged.”
按照传说来看，亚瑟的出身多种多样，何况凯尔特人在古罗马作家笔下常常就是金发碧眼。 引用第14楼stawberry于2012-12-05 03:46发表的 :
哎，真的么？一般来说给人的印象就是棕发啊。 images/back.gif
凯尔特人出名的应该是红发吧，但并不都是红发，金发棕发红发基因是密切相关的。 引用第11楼الطائر于2012-12-05 03:32发表的:
Glastonbury, in addition to many other places, like Caerleon and Tintagel, has been linked to King Arthur. This link though, at Glastonbury, is in death rather than life. The connection of the Isle of Apples or Avalloc, to Avalon was thought to have been first made in about the 12th century and then reported by William of Malmesbury the interpolator, in his De antiquitae Glatoniensis ecclesie and Geoffrey of Monmouth in his Historia regum Britanniae.
Arthur was the legendary English King - 'Arthur of the Britons', before Saxon times. He was born out of wedlock and raised by wizard Merlin. When only a boy, after many men had tried and failed, Arthur gained the throne by withdrawing the magic sword Excalibur from a stone. The nearby Cadbury Castle, at North Cadbury supposedly became his 'Camelot'.
After his many exploits and stories concerning his Knights, the Round Table and the Holy Grail, he was wounded by Mordred at the battle of Camlan. This was around the year 542 and he was then taken across the water to the Isle of Avalon for his wounds to be healed. Glastonbury would indeed still have been an island at that time, so it was quite possible for a boat to bring him to the only place where any medical attention was available, which would have been at a monastery - Glastonbury Abbey. Arthur was mortally wounded however and it is said he was buried in the cemetery on the south side of the Lady Chapel, at Glastonbury Abbey. He was buried between two stone pyramids and at great depth.
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旅游景点的宣传网站，不咋足信的。 鬼子痴迷金发碧眼也不是稀罕事了而且你不也能指望蘑菇那帮同人黄油作者能有什么拿的出手的文史底子 引用第18楼hoh于2012-12-05 04:19发表的 :
旅游景点的宣传网站，不咋足信的。
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你对洛阳关林关羽墓有何见解？
关林位于洛阳市南郊7公里，相传为埋葬漢末三国蜀汉名将关羽首级的地方，是中国和海内外三大关庙之一。 这还需要战么 理由应该就是TM根本没想这问题，只是单纯觉得金发碧眼才好看，按历史来说其实这个发色问题蛮大的，黑发是罗马人后裔金发是日耳曼人后裔，忘了在哪看到过一个说法亚瑟王后来和圆桌的矛盾和血统有一定关系。 金发碧眼=纯正英国贵族血统 纠结这种问题你们是有多无聊 我读的书少你们不要骗我，C妈和汪酱头发都是天生紫色蓝色的吗？
然后撒库拉是因为从小被喂虫变异了，HF有讲 引用第21楼stawberry于2012-12-05 05:32发表的 :
http://news.sina.com.cn/c/2012-08-01/044924882023.shtml images/back.gif
这个不就是有原著参照的吗？郭靖黄蓉确实保卫的是襄阳啊，跟什么“因不愿降金，于1207年含恨投江而死”的某某人没啥关系。
我说的是，早在中世纪，就有亚瑟是金发的说法流传至今。什么圆桌骑士、圣杯，是典型的中世纪传说，没理由考据到古罗马呀。 单纯因为武内是金发控吧。
还有性转也是武内的主意。 现在流传比较广的传说
亚瑟王的父亲忧瑟王是罗马派遣到英格兰的总督
所以现在影视作品里的亚瑟王大多是黑发
历史上基尔加美什肯定是黑发的,因为苏美尔人自称黑头人
但是蘑菇为了强调金色是王的象征,这两位就都变成金发了
至于大帝为什么不是金发,因为fz是老虚写的
不过我觉得caster应该是金发才对... 引用第26楼sonicbabyaya于2012-12-05 08:39发表的:
我读的书少你们不要骗我，C妈和汪酱头发都是天生紫色蓝色的吗？
然后撒库拉是因为从小被喂虫变异了，HF有讲 images/back.gif
那应该算是黑色吧.... 引用第30楼roadcross于2012-12-05 13:23发表的:
但是蘑菇为了强调金色是王的象征,这两位就都变成金发了
至于大帝为什么不是金发,因为fz是老虚写的
不过我觉得caster应该是金发才对..
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来人啊，P个金发的大帝来 引用第29楼stawberry于2012-12-05 13:06发表的:
有Historia Brittonum和Annales Cambriae等成书于9世纪以后的史料记载他是生活在5世纪后期的罗马化大不列颠人。但是这些史料的真实性被质疑，没有足够的证据表明他的确存在过。很多学者干脆就说这个人根本没存在过。如果那个人的确存在过，那么他八成就是黑发的罗马人或者棕发的凯尔特人。等到有关他的传说作为文学广为流传的时候，大不列颠人种已经非常杂了，这些人笔下的亚瑟难免会被加上有别于罗马人或者土著的特征。
至于他在中世纪传说中的发色，我查了一下，貌似连非常熟悉那些传说的英国人都搞不清楚亚瑟的发色。非常怀疑你那个金发论的来历。 images/back.gif
中世纪及以后很长时期没那么多“二次设定”，教会人员说的就是一次（当然，即使这帮文盲自己都会瞎胡编圣经……）设定。其他的东西只要不违法“上帝的旨意”随便搞好了。因此往往是没有一个确定的设定，但却有一个主流的流行趋势。亚瑟王基本上就是在那时候就是被定型为“追寻圣杯的骑士王”这样的传说形象。
至于金发么，根本不用算一个论或学说，在那个文盲比苍蝇多的时代，只要是一种文学（文学……嗯，吟游诗人的文学）的流行就可以了。毕竟比起蓬头垢面的真实骑士，金发碧眼闪闪发光的基督勇士之王要时髦多了……
不要用真实来度量传说，尽管传说发迹于真实。 引用第11楼الطائر于2012-12-05 03:32发表的:
Glastonbury, in addition to many other places, like Caerleon and Tintagel, has been linked to King Arthur. This link though, at Glastonbury, is in death rather than life. The connection of the Isle of Apples or Avalloc, to Avalon was thought to have been first made in about the 12th century and then reported by William of Malmesbury the interpolator, in his De antiquitae Glatoniensis ecclesie and Geoffrey of Monmouth in his Historia regum Britanniae.
Arthur was the legendary English King - 'Arthur of the Britons', before Saxon times. He was born out of wedlock and raised by wizard Merlin. When only a boy, after many men had tried and failed, Arthur gained the throne by withdrawing the magic sword Excalibur from a stone. The nearby Cadbury Castle, at North Cadbury supposedly became his 'Camelot'.
After his many exploits and stories concerning his Knights, the Round Table and the Holy Grail, he was wounded by Mordred at the battle of Camlan. This was around the year 542 and he was then taken across the water to the Isle of Avalon for his wounds to be healed. Glastonbury would indeed still have been an island at that time, so it was quite possible for a boat to bring him to the only place where any medical attention was available, which would have been at a monastery - Glastonbury Abbey. Arthur was mortally wounded however and it is said he was buried in the cemetery on the south side of the Lady Chapel, at Glastonbury Abbey. He was buried between two stone pyramids and at great depth.
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埋了一个阿瑟，埋了一个阿尔托莉雅（误）。后来还有黑漆漆的兰斯洛特
卧槽，蘑菇你可以的啊艹！ 引用第26楼sonicbabyaya于2012-12-05 08:39发表的:
我读的书少你们不要骗我，C妈和汪酱头发都是天生紫色蓝色的吗？
然后撒库拉是因为从小被喂虫变异了，HF有讲 images/back.gif
库丘林是凯尔特有涂蓝的传统。
至于Caster和Rider的设定我是真心看不懂。
怎么想都是美狄亚应该是Rider(骑龙飞走，美杜莎是Caster（魔眼+魔性。
脖子砍断了飞出来天马，比起骑乘术，这明明是变魔术类的技能好吧？！ 按照小时候金发的说法不就对了么，人家都说了拔剑后就不长个了
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