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引用第240楼七夜琉璃于2011-11-27 16:41发表的 Re:回 237楼(七夜琉璃) 的帖子 :个人倾向带着儿子复仇一些，毕竟是重誓要求刷子带她逃跑+整个私奔过程都很坚强勇敢的人，比较像那种会携家带口为夫报仇的刚强女性。 images/back.gif
这样很美好啊
我第一次看的那个版本里，刷子刚死的时候公主也是恨得咬牙切齿，誓不两立
后来菲恩对她甜言蜜语软磨硬泡以后，不知道为什么就从了
看到她又和菲恩一起出现的时候，整个菲奥娜骑士团都笑了
不知道作者的用意何在，说明有这样的团长，散伙了也不奇怪？ 根据wiki
The story begins with the aging Fionn, leader of the warrior band the Fianna, grieving over the death of his wife Maigneis. His men find that Gráinne, the daughter of High King Cormac mac Airt, is the worthiest of all women and arrangements are made for their wedding. At their betrothal feast, however, Gráinne is distressed that Fionn is older than her father, and becomes enamored with Fionn's handsome warrior Diarmuid (according to oral versions, this is because of the magical "love spot" on his forehead that makes him irresistible.) She slips a sleeping potion to the rest of the guests and encourages Diarmuid to run away with her. He refuses at first out of loyalty to Fionn, but relents when she threatens him with a geis forcing him to comply. They hide in a forest across the River Shannon, and Fionn immediately pursues them. They evade him several times with the help of other Fianna members and Aengus Óg, Diarmuid's foster father, who conceals Gráinne in his cloak of invisibility while Diarmuid leaps over the pursuers' heads.
Different variants from Ireland and Scotland contain different episodes, sending Diarmuid and Gráinne to all manner of places. Commonly Diarmuid refuses to sleep with Gráinne at first out of respect for Fionn; in one version she teases that water that has splashed up her leg is more adventurous than he is. A similar quip appears in some versions of the Tristan and Iseult legend. Another episode describes how the newly-pregnant Gráinne develops a craving for rowan berries guarded by the one eyed giant Searbhán; though at first friendly to the lovers, Searbhán angrily refuses to give up the berries and Diarmuid must fight him. Searbhán's skill at magic protects him from Diarmuid's mortal weapons, but Diarmuid eventually triumphs by turning the giant's iron club against him.
After many other adventures, Diarmuid's foster father Aengus negotiates peace with Fionn. The lovers settle in Keshcorran, County Sligo where they have five children; in some versions, Fionn marries Gráinne's sister. Eventually Fionn organizes a boar hunt near Benbulbin and Diarmuid joins, in spite of a prediction that he will be killed by a boar. Indeed, the creature wounds him mortally as he deals it a fatal blow. Fionn has the power to heal his dying comrade by simply letting him drink water from his hands, but he lets the water slip through his fingers twice. Finally Fionn's grandson Oscar threatens him with violence if he does not help Diarmuid, but when he returns from the well on the third attempt it is too late. Diarmuid has died.
Versions differ as to Gráinne's subsequent actions. In some Aengus takes Diarmuid's body to his home at Brú na Bóinne. In some Gráinne swears her children to avenge their father's death upon Fionn, while in others she grieves until she dies herself. In some she is reconciled with Fionn, and negotiates peace between him and her sons; or goes so far as to marry Fionn at last. 传说
迪尔姆德在某一天夜晚打猎的时候，遇到了一位女性，她是青春的化身。两人共度良宵之后，她在迪尔姆德的脸上施放了一枚有魔力的爱痣，任何女性在注视这颗痣之后，都会立刻爱上迪尔姆德。
费因·玛库的新娘格萝妮娅在婚礼上见到了迪尔姆德并爱上了他。格萝妮娅对迪尔姆德施放了一个誓约，令迪尔姆德在安格斯的帮助下与她私奔。
最终，在安格斯亲自出面调解之后，费因赦免了迪尔姆德。迪尔姆德与格萝妮娅安顿下来之后，养育了五个孩子。数年后，费因邀请迪尔姆德参加一场野猪狩猎，狩猎地点在本布宾。狩猎过程中，迪尔姆德被一头特别巨大的野猪撞成重伤。费因本人拥有一种能力，即普通的水若从他的双手中饮取，可以治愈伤口，但是，当他作势捧水给迪尔姆德喝时，他故意令水从手指间漏走。费因的儿子奥西恩（Oisín ）与孙子奥斯卡 （Oscar）看不过去，要求他应当公平地对待迪尔姆德，然而太迟了，迪尔姆德死去了。安格斯将迪尔姆德的尸体带回了自己的领地。
年轻男子，年轻女子与该女子的年长的追求者之间的三角关系是爱尔兰神话中永恒的主题，迪尔姆德与格萝妮娅的故事即是其中的一个例子。拥有相似主题的故事也存在于其他爱尔兰传说中的人物身上.
爱尔兰神话就是NTR
by wiki 三角和NTR是不一样的…… 引用第241楼魔法使い于2011-11-27 16:44发表的 :
怎么跟我听得不一样，刷子会死不是在邀请狩猎野猪时就定了吗？他应该是自愿接受死亡的呀？而且那只野猪也是为杀他而生的。 images/back.gif
菲恩叫他去狩猎前刷子都不知道是要猎什么，去了之后菲恩告诉他他才知道还有命运之猪这个玩意而且就在眼前，那时侯再临阵脱逃岂不是很丢人。刷子一开始还是想搏一搏的，要菲恩的猎犬，菲恩都不给他。刷子这才放话说菲恩如果你安排这个狩猎活动就是想让我死，那我现在逃也没用，就去战野猪了。说是自愿接受死亡，不如说是明白了菲恩到底是多想整死他。
关于菲奥娜传说的参考资料这里有一本http://www.sacred-texts.com/neu/celt/gafm/index.htm
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我是说啊，改嫁结局里，菲恩这么执着要娶这个公主，到底是说明公主二十年后已经是几个孩子的妈了照样美貌不减当年呢，还是说明菲恩已经找不到别的美女娶了呢当然如果说是男人的面子那我无话可说
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把骆驼从f15身上赶了下来Re:回 243楼(ufoasdf) 的帖子
引用第249楼f15于2011-11-27 17:07发表的 回 243楼(ufoasdf) 的帖子 :我是说啊，改嫁结局里，菲恩这么执着要娶这个公主，到底是说明公主二十年后已经是几个孩子的妈了照样美貌不减当年呢，还是说明菲恩已经找不到别的美女娶了呢
当然如果说是男人的面子那我无话可说 images/back.gif
花言巧语骗回来之后放置PLAY
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对话整个FZ里除却吼叫和梦中强X雁夜的话骆驼只有几句台词
那时候刷哥早已经(ry 怎么可能有对话啦
基本就跟70码的时候一样一样的
“到此为止了，berserker！”
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然后我就和电线杆一样 折戟沉砂了
看到旁边楼那个动画党朋友问答录忽然觉得250楼这样的稀有资源也应该保护起来
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引用第252楼wjn6347xjs于2011-11-27 17:15发表的 Re:回 243楼(ufoasdf) 的帖子 :花言巧语骗回来之后放置PLAY images/back.gif
飞鸟君说的选项三本子剧情 引用第220楼uishax于2011-11-27 15:39发表的 :
Lancer将太太笑容和公主对比了一下，已经说明他心里已经有底了，他只是利用索拉薇拿圣杯救主而已。
引用第222楼collincollin于2011-11-27 15:50发表的 :
刷子不会被女人迷惑，只有女人被他迷惑
所以刷子从头到尾都是清醒的
问题是索拉薇的提议也没办法反驳，只能就这么上了
所以才能叫女难吧，而不是精虫上脑
引用第223楼爱丽苏菲尔于2011-11-27 15:51发表的 :
Lancer能大致猜到，但是在他的立场上，也只能这样做了。没有其他的选择。
Lancer既然知道真相就表現一下應有的憤怒吧....orz
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引用第254楼shadowfr于2011-11-27 17:24发表的 回 253楼(tasuku) 的帖子 :对话
整个FZ里除却吼叫和梦中强X雁夜的话骆驼只有几句台词
那时候刷哥早已经(ry images/back.gif
這是啥...... 又有动画党被戳透了
愤怒的问题⋯⋯首先他是虚渊定评的nice guy，其次索拉说你不干了我们就没法用圣杯救主任了，他个刚表完对主任忠心的还哪有台阶下，愤怒完全不顶用吧 喜闻乐见的老外评论：
I feel bad for Kayneth now...he probably would have preferred dying instead of waking up finding out he can no longer use magic. His wife is a total bitch..
光头教授真悲剧，他肯定宁愿死了也不愿无法用魔术了。他老婆真bitch.
qt: finance (arrange marriage) not wife.
未婚妻，还不是老婆
qtqt:
So is it Sol marrying for the money or Kayneth?那他们为什么结婚？为了钱？
qtqtqt:
It's not for money. Both of them are from prestigious magical families, so if they combine, they'll be able to produce future great wizards. Remember Kayneth lecturing about the importance of a strong bloodline to create a strong magus in the first episode.
But despite the arranged marriage, Kayneth does sincerely love Sola, but not vice versa. Which creates problems with Lancer.
原作党讲解
Another victim to the Love spot... Can't really blame Sola-Ul though, Diarmund's curse is too strong.
又一个爱情的牺牲品，不过不能怪sola,枪兵的诅咒（苦逼）太强
Another pretty solid episode. Lancer is looking more manly and awesome by the episode, and it's kind of a shame that he's gotten stuck with quite possibly one of the worst teams in the game. Kayneth was a fool and got ahead of himself and now he's paying the price, but this Sola chick seems less desirable yet. Anybody that betrays their fiance or whatever that easily and would stoop to that just to get his command seals and than physically and emotionally torture him to the point where they make HIM look sympathetic is bad news and it's kind of sad that Lancer seems to be falling for her act cause she reminds him a bit of someone he loved during his own heroic saga. Too bad he got the short end of the stick in getting paired up with total scumbags for masters.
大意：苦逼LANCER和他猪一样的队友。
Can't wait to see Caster/Ryunosuke's reaction to the destruction of their lair, tears will definitely be shed by those two...
已经等不及去看变态二人组在工房被毁后的表现了，一定会哭死吧
Assassins are so weak. Can they do anything besides spying and dying?
ASS真弱，他们除了侦查和去死还能干什么？
http://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=108587&page=1 驾驶员和我一起宝具化了
引用第262楼Illidan于2011-11-27 17:42发表的:
Assassins are so weak. Can they do anything besides spying and dying?
ASS真弱，他们除了侦查和去死还能干什么？
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忽然觉得好像很真理
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引用第261楼tasuku于2011-11-27 17:40发表的 Re:回 253楼(tasuku) 的帖子 :各种B叔都是狂暴到失去理智的啊
本来还期待了下这两个牛头人交流经验什么的
其实我更好奇那个f15里面的驾驶员怎么了或者说根本没有驾驶员？
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驾驶员肉饼了
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引用第258楼dungeon于2011-11-27 17:32发表的 Re:回 253楼(tasuku) 的帖子 :這是啥......
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f15和f15驾驶员，你们是我的翅膀 引用第262楼Illidan于2011-11-27 17:42发表的 :
Assassins are so weak. Can they do anything besides spying and dying?
ASS真弱，他们除了侦查和去死还能干什么
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望向某个拿下死徒一条命的ASS
等等，李先生好像就够了
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引用第258楼dungeon于2011-11-27 17:32发表的 Re:回 253楼(tasuku) 的帖子 :這是啥......
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梦中强X雁夜
引用第263楼f15于2011-11-27 17:43发表的:
驾驶员和我一起宝具化了
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80个活动眼位，可以点亮东木市了，当时切嗣招暗杀者效果比呆毛好 引用第266楼长江骑士于2011-11-27 17:46发表的:
f15和f15驾驶员，你们是我的翅膀images/back.gif
你还记得大明湖畔的电灯柱吗 说起来真A拿下小次郎，枪兵，夸大点也可以算是间接害死了红A，saber，C妈，这战绩好强。 枪兵哥，要不我们私奔吧 引用第269楼delfu于2011-11-27 17:51发表的:
80个活动眼位，可以点亮东木市了，当时切嗣招暗杀者效果比呆毛好 images/back.gif
可惜80人的主子是麻婆
就没想让他们做除了侦察和去死以外的事情
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引用第268楼handing于2011-11-27 17:48发表的 Re:Re:回 253楼(tasuku) 的帖子 :梦中强X雁夜
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看下面的字句不是同人圖啊...這是在幹什麼 补魔 雁夜被长江XXOO了。。。
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小次郎是黑泥解决的吧，真A其他的光荣战绩也是靠黑泥辅助才诞生的吧 assassin用得好的话，第五次战争除了麻婆（本身能力强，lancer天生克assassin）干不了以外，其他天天上学的master可以轻松击杀。第四次的master警觉意识要强很多，assassin自然沦落为侦察兵了。其实想杀苦逼叔叔还是很简单的，不过时臣八成觉得没必要。。。 要assassin战斗本来就很勉强
这真没什么好鞭的
不过这集也太弱了吧！一刀秒是搞什么
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引用第277楼⊱♀♂卍卐于2011-11-27 18:01发表的 回 271楼(魔法使い) 的帖子 :小次郎是黑泥解决的吧，真A其他的光荣战绩也是靠黑泥辅助才诞生的吧 images/back.gif
真A从小次郎体中爬出来的，其他的除了C妈有疑问都是黑泥辅助。