m98626
发表于 2024-5-5 11:10
win10时代开始微软就把pc用户账号这条路给趟平了,我电脑上甚至两个账号。打开电脑根本不用登陆就能玩,你psn是个什么东西。而且你不是惦记你那全价会免神作上pc再卖一遍么,ps+也不让pc玩家吃一口,被骂活该
丹德里恩
发表于 2024-5-5 11:10
没想到我就几天没点进来有这么大的乐子,赶紧写小作文试试退款去
大哀之君
发表于 2024-5-5 11:11
这次事件可以跟微软给Mojang做用户迁移的情况相类比。当时微软方案是三年缓冲期,完成绑号送限定披风,送Xbox端数字版游戏,就这还引起了大量节奏。索尼的做法真是嫌自己生活太平淡不整点乐子不舒服
雪地白狼
发表于 2024-5-5 11:12
国区试了下没法退款,会以超过时间为理由直接打回来。
Freewolf
发表于 2024-5-5 11:12
顺便发个我用的小作文模板:
Subject: Request for Special Consideration Regarding Refund for "HELLDIVERS™ 2" Due to Policy Change
Dear Steam Support Team,
I am writing to request your special consideration regarding my refund application for "HELLDIVERS™ 2," which I purchased on【购买时间】. Initially, I was attracted by the flexible account binding policy mentioned in the game's promotion, where players could freely choose whether to link their Steam account with a PlayStation Network (PSN) account. Based on this information, I made the purchase willingly.
However, the recent announcement by the game publisher that all users must now bind a PSN account to play the game came as a surprise. This significant change contradicts the terms I understood and accepted at the time of purchase. As a platform that respects user choice, I believe Steam also values consumer rights and meeting the expectations set at the time of purchase.
While I understand Steam's standard refund policy is within 14 days of purchase and under 2 hours of gameplay, my situation falls outside of these parameters. However, I believe my case is unique and merits special consideration. This policy change effectively alters the basis of our service agreement, preventing me from enjoying the game on Steam as intended, contrary to my original purchase intent.
Considering the above circumstances, I earnestly request that the Steam team understands my position and considers providing a one-time refund as a reasonable response to this sudden change. I remain confident that Steam is committed to safeguarding consumer rights and look forward to your consistent support for users on this matter.
For your convenience, I have included the necessary purchase information:
Game Name: HELLDIVERS™ 2
Purchase Date: 【购买时间】
Playtime: 【游玩时间】 (unable to continue due to policy change)
Transaction ID: 【交易ID】
I sincerely hope we can find a satisfactory solution and thank you for taking the time to review my request. I eagerly await your positive response.
Best regards,
【steamID】
May 5, 2024
h122h
发表于 2024-5-5 11:20
下一步是不是要steam玩家必须有psn会员,才能给你联机啊。
卡拉德利姆
发表于 2024-5-5 11:23
联机服务费交一交
Mr.Hopp
发表于 2024-5-5 11:25
h122h 发表于 2024-5-5 11:20
下一步是不是要steam玩家必须有psn会员,才能给你联机啊。
也没哪家敢,看好索尼第一个吃螃蟹,还玩的都是优质客户
Buke
发表于 2024-5-5 11:25
雪地白狼 发表于 2024-5-5 11:12
国区试了下没法退款,会以超过时间为理由直接打回来。
估计第一道是ai机器人处理,写个小作文再提一次看能不能转人工甚至V社正式工
ddwhzh
发表于 2024-5-5 11:28
怎么不锁国区,建议锁了,绝版+1
sixgun
发表于 2024-5-5 11:29
强制绑定,还特么宽限期都整出来了?真司马玩意儿
Buke
发表于 2024-5-5 11:30
爱护动物抓根宝 发表于 2024-5-5 11:00
微软挺奸其实,现在win上面的xbox游戏要玩必须要装xbox服务,直接ban掉了win7和一票精简版win10,而能把这 ...
连steam都已经正式停止对win10以下支持了,别抱着win7不放了
爱护动物抓根宝
发表于 2024-5-5 11:33
Buke 发表于 2024-5-5 11:30
连steam都已经正式停止对win10以下支持了,别抱着win7不放了
此一时彼一时嘛,16年那会为了在pc上玩60帧地平线3可是废了我好大的劲,去他妈的印度人
Launce
发表于 2024-5-5 11:41
真的牛批,每步都选择弹幕最多的打发
kalavinka
发表于 2024-5-5 11:46
寄
Mr.Hopp
发表于 2024-5-5 11:46
有人发现购买页面确实写了需要PSN账号,估计一开始就想绑,100%是箭头SB搞不定绑定的系统才延期到现在。
Launce
发表于 2024-5-5 11:49
Mr.Hopp 发表于 2024-5-5 11:46
有人发现购买页面确实写了需要PSN账号,估计一开始就想绑,100%是箭头SB搞不定绑定的系统才延期到现在。
第三方账户绑定这么成熟的玩意儿都能搞不定,我相信SP说的矢脑程序员连STEAM UUID的API都不会写了
DawnGuardian
发表于 2024-5-5 11:52
Launce 发表于 2024-5-5 11:49 引用:Mr.Hopp 发表于 2024-5-5 11:46 有人发现购买页面确实写了需要PSN账号,估计一开始就想绑,100%是箭头SB搞不定绑定的系统才延期到现在。
箭头索尼属于是卧龙凤雏,破锅配烂盖了
Aeons
发表于 2024-5-5 12:00
拐着弯【】你【】爹
丹德里恩
发表于 2024-5-5 12:03
kalavinka 发表于 2024-5-5 11:46
寄
第一遍一般是AI自动回复,再发、别停
Launce
发表于 2024-5-5 12:03
kalavinka 发表于 2024-5-5 11:46
寄
我的还没回,快22小时了
Freewolf
发表于 2024-5-5 12:10
我收到的回复,希望不是在打太极
kalavinka
发表于 2024-5-5 12:18
G胖应该是知道这事了,早上看到被拒绝后我贴了楼上楼友模版,然后再看了眼我4055楼的回复,竟然变了
Awanano
发表于 2024-5-5 12:19
only on ps还是有可取之处的,至少不会发生这次这种丢人现眼的情况
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风萧飒
发表于 2024-5-5 12:20
现在还能玩大概率退不了,得等下月才有机会吧
—— 来自 S1Fun
Aeons
发表于 2024-5-5 12:20
看了下30天内22%了
天妇罗
发表于 2024-5-5 12:29
索尼真的真么在乎它那个b账号就应该在pc上出自己的启动器,看看有多少人去买你的游戏
ravend233
发表于 2024-5-5 12:29
steam 方面估计也在寻思怎么处理这事,别急
—— 来自 Xiaomi 23013RK75C, Android 14上的 S1Next-鹅版 v2.5.2-play
白昼梦
发表于 2024-5-5 12:39
Mr.Hopp
发表于 2024-5-5 12:57
无人在意的角落,全服指令快要完成了。
Znesmoc
发表于 2024-5-5 13:06
每当觉得这游戏还算有点可取之处的时候,索尼和箭头就回来给我整个活
可惜是买的cdkey没法退款了
SBRrunner
发表于 2024-5-5 13:08
cdkey退不了,但是我送朋友那份给退了,cdkey那份超级公民当喂狗了
Hello friends.
The recent announcement of HELLDRIVERS2 being forced to bind to a PSN account in order to play has angered me as well as my friend, as not only does it go against the promises made at the time of the game's release, but also the fact that PSN doesn't work smoothly in the region I'm located in with my friend, which leads to a high probability that we won't be able to play the game properly in the future.
HELLDRIVERS2 has been plagued with many problems, like the balance and anti-cheating has been criticized the whole time, and the production staff and community manager have often talked down to the players, all of which we put up with, but this time? No, such behavior like this would definitely be unacceptable to us, and therefore we both agreed that it was necessary for us to speak up for our rights and to meet Arrowhead Studios' community manager's demands "refund and leave".
自己写的小作文
6x6z6w
发表于 2024-5-5 13:49
北条早苗 发表于 2024-5-5 11:09
隔壁对马岛求生欲太强了,直接出来澄清我们玩单机不用绑PSN
Sucker Punch是比较无辜,但对马岛PC版我已经决定不买了
ナルバレック
发表于 2024-5-5 13:53
天妇罗 发表于 2024-5-5 12:29
索尼真的真么在乎它那个b账号就应该在pc上出自己的启动器,看看有多少人去买你的游戏 ...
不就是在整这个玩意吗?只不过大概率是去年下半年才开始起意搞个PC端通用的PSN启动器的,更早之前PC端都没几个游戏,所以他们没考虑搞启动器,现在大概率是准备参考各家大厂的PC启动器,传闻对马岛的PC版就是单机模式不需要账号,联机需要账号
白昼梦
发表于 2024-5-5 13:57
tonyunreal
发表于 2024-5-5 14:06
https://p.sda1.dev/17/5acb7e2c95791e5bd6dc2d79a3e234dc/psnaccount.jpg
其他游戏的评论开始出现新模板了
出处: https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198417919554/recommended/548430/
天妇罗
发表于 2024-5-5 14:17
ナルバレック 发表于 2024-5-5 13:53
不就是在整这个玩意吗?只不过大概率是去年下半年才开始起意搞个PC端通用的PSN启动器的,更早之前PC端都 ...
这个我双手双脚赞成,最好把联机需要psn会员的限制也加上,让pc玩家体验原汁原味的playstation
burgerWang
发表于 2024-5-5 14:23
DLC退了,本体还在写小作文扯皮中
暴走的包子
发表于 2024-5-5 14:40
一定要英文么,我是中文写了段还在审
Awanano
发表于 2024-5-5 14:47
今天第二份投出去了
想一想这个小作文好像确实很适合高中生拿来练手,这不比李华真实多了
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