我个人觉得亚当的目的是学习人类，所以死是这个学习过程的重要组成部分，也就是亚当最终的一步
之后死前他理解了死的感念，然后上传了这份资料吧
红眼病不可治愈吧，人类太想当然
最终得出结论是要把魔素重新丢回DOD世界才行，为啥一代复制体不会染病？
最终哥控那货进化成人类了？
本帖最后由 木消灭 于 2017-3-7 19:26 编辑
車椅子の少女 发表于 2017-3-7 12:14
yorha的眼罩和面纱游戏里有没有什么特殊的含义？貌似其他人造人都不带那东西 ...
捏他エミール？14年yokotaro给日本偶像舞台剧团体写的剧「ヨルハ」里不知道有没有解释…s1有人看过吗？
剧情基本就是NieRA的
遠い未来、機械生命体によって地球を
侵略された人類は、月へと逃れていた。
衛星軌道上に存在する人類の防衛拠点では、
アンドロイドたちが人類に代わって
侵略者たちと戦っている。
第十四次降下作戦において予想外の攻撃を受けた
実験部隊『ヨルハ』はたったの四機を残して全滅……。
しかし、地上に残って抵抗運動を続けていた
レジスタンスと合流したヨルハたちは
司令部の過酷な命令に応え、
機械生命体へと決死の戦いを挑むのだった。
官网 http://yorha.com/
角色
http://wx3.sinaimg.cn/mw690/65e90828gy1fdeg4i1bdqj20vy0r3niw.jpg
YoRHa这个名字和yonah有关联吗……？
2号就是A2吧，然后2号有kanie的记忆好像是这样。
其实进入三周目后2B这人我都忘了。。A2出场虽然不多，但是给我的印象很深
眼罩的话，nier1美版的nier也是戴眼罩的
不知道是不是制作人突然觉醒的趣味
—— 来自 HUAWEI EVA-TL00, Android 7.0上的 S1Next-鹅版
本帖最后由 車椅子の少女 于 2017-3-7 20:14 编辑
对了，继续之前推测的N2其实从根本的渗透了人造人势力，那么yorha部队可能不仅仅是要给自己找个对手打
人造人和机械生命体比较大的区别大概是人造人系自我学习能力较强，作为个体的人更为完善，而机械生命体个体上并不突出，但是作为全体直接网络化共享程度高
那么yorha是不是其实也算是机械生命体的一个分支，然后通过yorha的情报反向得出了亚达和夏娃这样的独立性强大的个体（领导人）
最后N2实体化之后也是更为高阶的人的形象，不再是破铁块的形象了，但是同时可以分裂出无数个N2，其实是把这2个分支给整合了？
顺便机械生命体以男性个体居多，yorha以女性个体压倒性的多，最后的N2则是少女形象男性中年声音
地上正版人造人游击队员则是性别平衡的
車椅子の少女 发表于 2017-3-7 20:06
对了，继续之前推测的N2其实从根本的渗透了人造人势力，那么yorha部队可能不仅仅是要给自己找个对手打
人造 ...
我觉得N2可能没这么神通广大，他就一个机械生命体的指挥系统，也就是yorha那边指挥官那个职位的。本身的意识和知识进步应该和机械生命体大众是基本同步的，只是他有指挥权而已，而他也只是以最大化机械生命体的综合利益为目标展开行动而已吧
—— 来自 HUAWEI EVA-TL00, Android 7.0上的 S1Next-鹅版
nier的pkg包叫做ANDROIDS20030612
—— 来自 HUAWEI EVA-TL00, Android 7.0上的 S1Next-鹅版
说起来 一周目初期的时候在工厂废墟地下有两个问号红点
后期去地下的时候印象中也没用到啊 那俩点是什么东西？
セト 发表于 2017-3-8 01:40
说起来 一周目初期的时候在工厂废墟地下有两个问号红点
后期去地下的时候印象中也没用到啊 那俩点是什么东 ...
两个存档点
本帖最后由 qdaqd123 于 2017-3-8 01:49 编辑
做龙背和尼尔年表的老外更了美术集小说的2b和9s那段的剧情（英文，居然还真是个妹子），应该还有更新。
原地址：http://nier2.com/blog/2017/03/07 ... novellas/#more-5385
■ The Memory Cage by Eishima Jun (9 pages, 3 columns each)
This novella has 6 separate sections that tend to shift the perspective between 9S and 2B. It takes place sometime after the beginning of the game where 2B and 9S meet for the “first” time in the Factory Ruins, after 9S tells her how glad he is to finally get the chance to work with someone after being alone on the surface of the **et for so long. They work their way through the vast desert area and come across the ruins of the Barren Temple (lit. Sanctuary of Sand).
During a section in 2B’s perspective, 9S is clearly fascinated with the ancient wonders within the sanctuary and he runs forward through a door, which closes quickly behind him. As 2B is trying to find him, she just barely dodges out of the way of sudden gunfire from… Pod153 and 9S himself. Apparently, he found out that she was **ning on killing him sometime and was waiting for her to make the first move… but it never came, so he decided on a preemptive strike. He manages to hack into her systems and completely take control of her…
But then 2B started to gain the upper hand anyway due to a tertiary backup ** by the Commander. She infects him with the Logic Virus that completely deletes his personal data, rendering his android body immobile and ready for the slaughter. She receives the order to destroy his head unit but hesitates. Again, she’s given the same order. Still she hesitates, even though this isn’t a first for her; she had also given peace to other YoRHa androids… At first she only felt her hand shake but now her whole upper body felt as though it were under such great pressure. There was no logical reason for it and yet she felt an acute pain in her chest.
Nonetheless, she still manages to perform her given task and lets her sword loose upon his neck.
“Signal from black box confirmed lost.”
And yet, she keeps hearing 9S’s voice in hear head:
Good-bye, 2B…
Good-bye, 2B…
2B tries to regain her composure but is continually plagued by a strange feeling and 9S’s voice echoing in her head. She asks Pod042 to open a channel to the Commander to tell her the status of the mission… and in the end, when she closes the line of communication, something like flowing quicksand overcomes her.
原来还处决过其他yorha。
qdaqd123 发表于 2017-3-8 01:44
做龙背和尼尔年表的老外更了美术集小说的2b和9s那段的剧情（英文，居然还真是个妹子），应该还有更新 ...
怎么想也不可能是新手e型啦，所以你看别人各种感情就2b说不要感情不要感情，奈何这次9s太会撩，自己掉坑里了
qdaqd123 发表于 2017-3-8 01:44
做龙背和尼尔年表的老外更了美术集小说的2b和9s那段的剧情（英文，居然还真是个妹子），应该还有更新 ...
有日文版本么，英文看起来好累
ewanexe 发表于 2017-3-8 08:16
你认真看一下这里面有个叫アネモネ的和一个叫二号的，再回游戏看看三周目A2回营地里面的终端机（ ...
リリィ和ローズ，第一行的型号也都对上了，所以其实就是珍珠湾咯
西北和东南 发表于 2017-3-7 12:57
可惜那些人类模仿派一看就技术不过关，连最重要的器官之一都没造出来。 ...
也许机械生命体是参照**对于打码部分无法还原。
范志毅. 发表于 2017-3-8 01:58
怎么想也不可能是新手e型啦，所以你看别人各种感情就2b说不要感情不要感情，奈何这次9s太会撩，自己掉坑 ...
对比序章9s坠机和其他队友坠机时2b的反应很明显2b对9s是有旧情的。所以2b那句任务中不能带感情更多是对自己说的吧。
本帖最后由 rinkzea 于 2017-3-9 00:36 编辑
木消灭 发表于 2017-3-7 18:03
捏他エミール？14年yokotaro给日本偶像舞台剧团体写的剧「ヨルハ」里不知道有没有解释…s1有人看过吗？
剧 ...
YoRHa 1.0 在Nyaa上有种子，在http://nier2.com/yorha-stage-play/也有台本的英文翻译。
故事就是在11941年A2她们YoRHa试作型参加的珍珠港降下作战的故事。12台YoRHa试作型在突入大气层的过程中遭到了机械生命体的激光攻击（怎么这么耳熟？），最后只有2，4，16，21成功降落。2号虽然是能力最弱的软妹子，但按照规则接任了队长。（嗯怎么又有点耳熟？）
YoRHa的任务，是前往夏威夷岛Ka'ala山体内部的机械生命体机房。通过破坏机房本身，切断机器生命体与网络的联系。YoRHa指挥部希望这能够停止机器生命体的活动。她们在过程中得到了当地的反抗军的帮助，其中也包括アネモネ。但这场行动的真相我们通过游戏都知道了，指挥部没有告诉YoRHa们的是，她们从一开始就是自杀小队——她们只被给予了最低限度的装备和情报，而且破坏机房的方法是引爆她们体内的黑盒；甚至无论她们的作战是否成功对指挥部来说都没有关系，因为作战本身也是YoRHa的运用测试，通过收集战斗数据可以继续生产下一代安卓。随着战斗的进行，反抗军与YoRHa都陆续牺牲。最后，4号引爆了自己的黑盒子，巨大的爆炸摧毁了山中的设施。最后，这次作战只有2号和アネモネ活了下来。战斗结束后，方圆250km的机器生命体停止了活动。
看完了以后，有几个要点值得说一下：
[*]舞台剧解释了机器生命体开始获得灵魂的原因：9S线的第一个绘本中的火山喷发，应该就是这次作战中发生在Ka'ala山中的爆炸。然而很讽刺的是，这并没有让机器生命体永远停止，只不过让他们逐步获得了独立的灵魂，激发了下一轮的进化……
[*]每台原型YoRHa体内都被植入了虚假的“人类”记忆，以塑造其不同的性格。这种差异的性格与她们的战斗经验相结合，将会令各个型号的机体向着不同的特质逐步进化。
2号被植入的虚拟记忆是：她和祖母一起在农场相依为命。在严酷的自然环境下，祖孙二人和附近的其他农民一起协作，勉力求生。因此祖母一直教导她要“善良”。故事里，2号基本是个小动物的性格：看到大海会高兴的跳起来，看到机器生命体会害怕的坐到地上（……），但性格善良的她很快就和反抗军打成一片。总体来说，是个软妹子，但是从头哭到尾有点烦啊。
4号的记忆则是普通的女高中生，和朋友过着无忧无虑的生活。她对未来充满“希望”，因此在过程中不断的鼓励着2号，在最后选择自爆以让2号得以逃生。4号的一个特征是她的眼罩是斜着戴的，2号问她为什么，她说“斜着带比较好看”啊。真不愧是JK呢。想到2号和4号的姬情，2B斜带眼罩的原因或许也是来源于此吧？
[*]反抗军是每次降下作战失败之后，与轨道卫星失去联系而遗留在当地的安卓们，为了自保而集结起来的部队。其实高层是知道反抗军的存在的，只不过懒得派人下去支援她们而已。珍珠港一带的反抗军是200年前第8次降下作战的残余部队。从故事中的表现看来，YoRHa虽然性能强，但都是没打过仗的小女生，基本是战5渣。反抗军虽然机能落后很多（比如说她们需要持续摄入冷却水来维持体内的核反应堆的运作），但反而能利用战术和配合，跟机器生命体打个平手。
[*]N2在此时已经黑进了YoRHa的服务器中，获得了整个作战的真相，但她们似乎知道的也不多。在整个过程中，N2也通过某种未知渠道在监视着YoRHa和反抗军的行动。并且一直说安卓很有趣，她们还可以在这个世界里再待久一点。我猜测是在这个时候，因为机器生命体已经干掉了外星人，本来觉得地球唯我独尊没啥意思了。但因为观察到了各种各样不同性格特质的安卓和他们的喜怒哀乐，N2又想到了利用分裂不同派别的机器生命体，再次促进进化的方法。
[*]被机器生命体的病毒感染，而又被YoRHa治愈后的反抗军安卓，意外的获得了操控重力的能力。舞台剧里21号猜测侵入大脑的病毒有可能会引起意料之外的进化。再考虑到埃米尔武器故事里第一段那句话，我不禁觉得这里面或许水很深？
[*]看完了整部，司令从头到尾都处在一种需要按照计划放YoRHa去死，但又不断的被内心的良知所拷问的状态。知道真相的她又不能像其他低级机体那样，去进行记忆的格式化来解脱，想到她在游戏里最后的选择，或许整个YoRHa计划里最痛苦的就是她吧
http://nier2.com/blog/2017/03/07/nierautomata-world-guide-novellas/#more-5385
This novella has 6 separate sections that tend to shift the perspective between 9S and 2B. It’s never clearly stated when it’s supposed to take place, but simply from the narrative, the reader is lead to believe that this is sometime before the start of the game, on a mission to the desert zone.
▼ Part 1
It opens up with 2B dispatching a bunch of Bio-machines with the Type 4O sword in order to check for an important message from the Bunker at an access point.
Appearing out of the distance comes 9S.
9S: 2B! Is that a message from the Commander?
2B: No, it has nothing to do with our current assignment. It’s about another mission. (Changing the subject) This wasn’t our rendezvous point.
9S: I know but, I thought… I could help you……
2B: There’s no need.
9S: (shrug) No, it doesn’t look like it. Well, we met up safely, so why don’t we head toward the target area?
▼ Part 2
9S: Uwaah! I’ve got sand in my shoes again! Doesn’t it bother you?
2B: What does?
9S: Your shoes must be full of sand, aren’t they?
2B: I can tell somethings inside them, but it hardly impedes my ability to move, so…
9S: Don’t you hate how the sand sloshes around in your shoes like that!? Even if you can still walk fine, doesn’t it feel horrible?
2B: Emotions are forbidden.
9S: Aaaaaaaaaalright.
The narrative here explains that it was probably due to a failed squadron that later YoRHa androids were instructed to suppress their emotions. 2B believes, for all intents and purposes as battle type androids, emotions are not necessary… especially for herself.
They work their way through the vast desert area and come across the ruins of the Barren Temple (lit. Sanctuary of Sand). 9S points to what looks like the shadow of a building in the distance.
9S: Ah! Could that be it?
Pod053: Affirmative: This is the investigation target. A large building left over from human civilization.
9S: It seems to be what they called a sanctuary, some sort of religious building. Specifically, it was called the “Barren Temple”, I think. I suppose people from long ago used to live here but later turned it into a religious temple…… I guess.
9S was so excited to explore temple that he forgot about the sand in his shoes.
9S: C’mon, let’s check it out, 2B!
As 9S dashes off, a smile nearly forms on 2B’s face, but she suppresses it by quickly following after him.
2B: Emotions are forbidden……
She only meant to say this to herself, inside her mind, but she actually spoke them aloud. 9S heard her say something and turned around to face her.
9S: Did you say something!?
2B says it was nothing and they both continue their way toward the entrance of the temple.
▼ Part 3
As they entered the temple, the sound of the wind from outside in the desert faded away. It was suddenly so much quieter that 2B thought that all sound had disappeared.
9S: It feels like someone turned on the AC in here, huh?
Pod053: Negative: There are no such air conditioner units at this current location in the temple entrance. You are merely experiencing the difference of temperature from the outside to room temperature.
9S: Oh for craps sake, I realize that. It’s just a feeling.
The only sound in the room were their own footsteps and the low frequency humming of the two Pods. Part of the ceiling had caved in, allowing a brilliant stream of sunlight beaming through the still air.
9S: It looks like the sand’s even made it this far into the temple.
A nearby staircase and adjacent landing, the walls as well as the floor below were covered in mounds of sand.
Pod053: Conjecture: The sand mounds throughout the central hallway and multiple areas along the walls were placed artificially: however, exactly how it arrived there is unclear.
9S: I wonder why they’d do such a thing? You don’t have any idea?
Pod053: Affirmative.
So much of the old world’s legacy was a mystery. Even if humanity fled to the moon, that doesn’t mean they were able to take all of their records with them. That’s why it was important for the androids to conduct such investigations and record their findings.
2B: (To Pod042) Are there any Bio-machines nearby?
No enemy signals appeared on her visor screen, but she asked just to be sure.
Pod042: Response: There is no enemy signal within the temple.
Pod153: Warning: Both the stairs and portions of the ceiling are damaged further ahead.
9S laughed.
9S: You don’t need to tell me to know that, huh, 2B?
2B nodded. Halfway down the stairs, a huge boulder blocked the way.
9S: This used to be part of the ceiling. Much of it has been worn away, but you can still make out some of the pattern on it.
Both 9S and 2B raised their eyes to the partially collapsed ceiling above, exposing the brilliant blue sky beyond.
9S: I wonder what caused it to collapse.
At any rate, their ultimate task wasn’t to engage in battle with the Bio-machines but rather to help humanity return to the surface of the **et, and hopefully as close to their original form as possible. And that also included preserving natural heritage sites and other locations of the past as well, which meant avoiding battle near these areas and drawing out the enemy far enough away as not to further damage the ancient relics of humanity.
Pod053: Response: The cause of the collapse may due to the passage of many thousands of years. Further details on this cause is unknown.
9S: Thousands of years, huh? That’s amazing.
2B: Amazing?
9S: Well, I mean, if the ceiling here collapsed however many thousands of years ago, then the whole temple must have been built much earlier than that. For it to be in such good shape… it’s amazing. Given such a harsh climate out here in the desert, I’d imagine there’d be more erosion than what we see here.
Then almost without warning, 9S stood up and stepped toward the room on the side of the stairs.
2B: Now what?
9S seemed fascinated over a large, stone door that hung wide open.
9S: How do you think this door opened and closed? It’s complete stone, right? With this thickness and weight… There’s no way an average human could open it on their own.
The doorway featured double doors that wouldn’t even budge no matter how hard you pushed against them. 9S tilted his head in confusion.
9S: There must be a power source somewhere.
9S looked all about the room, but unlike the hallway that was flooded with natural light from outside, the space beyond the doorway was pitch black as the darkness expanded with no end. As 9S set foot toward the darkness, Pod053 moved ahead of him.
Pod053: Proposal: Turn on the light.
9S: Okay, do whatever.
Pod053: Understood.
What Pod053 then illuminated was a space far wider than he ever could have imagined. As 9S ran into the center of the room with Pod153, the space where 2B stood grew darker and darker the farther away 9S ran. Instructing Pod042 to turn on a light as well, 2B followed after 9S.
His gaze looking up at the ceiling, 9S continued to run through the open room along the walls around the perimeter as his footsteps echoed under the high ceiling as he went. He ran here and there, stoping only for a moment to examine the floor or the side of the wall. Simply watching him go to and fro made 2B’s head spin.
9S: The floor, the walls, even the ceiling are all made out of stone! The stone was cut into huge slabs and assembled together…… It’s unlike any building construction that I’ve seen. I’ve never seen anything like it! How in the world did they they manage to move such heavy slabs of rock!? How can this one pillar support such width and height?!
Seemingly talking to himself, 9S stepped near a section of the wall.
9S: Could there have been light source here? Attached to this long, narrow fixture in the wall?
Pod053: Affirmative. There are traces of a light source fixture known as a torch or something similar.
9S: There’s one, two, there, four… a total of eight fixtures along the room. I wonder what they used this room for? Maybe they’re remnants of some sort ceremony?
After running all about the room, 9S made his way to the inner doors. The entrance doors were left wide open, but a second set further beyond remained firmly shut.
9S: This couldn’t possibly…
He rest a hand upon the door.
9S: …be a cinch to open, do you think…?
Just as 9S voiced how impossible that would be, the doors budged open with a creak.
9S: It opened!?
9S looked on in shock at the double doors that opened to the left and right. With its light shining brightly, Pod053 ducked in and out of the doorway.
Pod053: Warning: There is an extreme vertical interval between the door and the pathway further ahead.
But 9S didn’t seem to care.
9S: I’m just going to take a quick look! I’ll be right back!
The moment 9S removed his hand from the side of the door and dashed inside, the doors tightly closed behind him.
…
As 2B is trying to find him, she just barely dodges out of the way of sudden gunfire from… Pod153 and 9S himself. Apparently, he found out that she was **ning on killing him sometime and was waiting for her to make the first move… but it never came, so he decided on a preemptive strike. He manages to hack into her systems and completely take control of her…
But then 2B started to gain the upper hand anyway due to a tertiary backup ** by the Commander. She infects him with the Logic Virus that completely deletes his personal data, rendering his android body immobile and ready for the slaughter. She receives the order to destroy his head unit but hesitates. Again, she’s given the same order. Still she hesitates, even though this isn’t a first for her; she had also given peace to other YoRHa androids… At first she only felt her hand shake but now her whole upper body felt as though it were under such great pressure. There was no logical reason for it and yet she felt an acute pain in her chest.
Nonetheless, she still manages to perform her given task and lets her sword loose upon his neck.
“Signal from black box confirmed lost.”
And yet, she keeps hearing 9S’s voice in hear head:
Good-bye, 2B…
Good-bye, 2B…
2B tries to regain her composure but is continually plagued by a strange feeling and 9S’s voice echoing in her head. She asks Pod042 to open a channel to the Commander to tell her the status of the mission… and in the end, when she closes the line of communication, something like flowing quicksand overcomes her.
車椅子の少女 发表于 2017-3-8 13:11
有日文版本么，英文看起来好累
我也想有日文扫啊
rinkzea 发表于 2017-3-8 20:24
YoRHa 1.0 在Nyaa上有种子，在http://nier2.com/yorha-stage-play/也有台本的英文翻译。
故事就是在11941 ...
居然只靠游戏本篇猜对了大半
但这样一来埃米尔的武器感觉又回到了轮回说？
或者说埃米尔的武器的那个年表其实是有问题的？要么埃米尔在某个异空间多过了几百年，要么真的在轮回？这种感觉
rinkzea 发表于 2017-3-8 21:24
YoRHa 1.0 在Nyaa上有种子，在http://nier2.com/yorha-stage-play/也有台本的英文翻译。
故事就是在11941 ...
原来如此，感谢
我有时间再看一遍…
qdaqd123 发表于 2017-3-8 01:44
做龙背和尼尔年表的老外更了美术集小说的2b和9s那段的剧情（英文，居然还真是个妹子），应该还有更新 ...
It takes place sometime after the beginning of the game where 2B and 9S meet for the “first” time in the Factory Ruins
这个发生的时点是妹子自己理解脑补的，美术集里的没明确说发生在什么时候，合理来说应当是发生在游戏本篇前的
Laie 发表于 2017-3-8 21:54
It takes place sometime after the beginning of the game where 2B and 9S meet for the “first” ti ...
她改成了没有具体提到但是lead reader认为发生在游戏开始前
rinkzea 发表于 2017-3-8 20:24
YoRHa 1.0 在Nyaa上有种子，在http://nier2.com/yorha-stage-play/也有台本的英文翻译。
故事就是在11941 ...
很给力的情报啊：
1.原来有一部分机械生命体断网是YORHA的锅啊
2.A2原本居然是爱哭鬼么，这反差萌- -
3.就是说一开始没有YORHA部队的时候，降下作战都是降下的普通安卓么
4.总觉有一点很奇怪，机械生命体好像从来不提埃米尔的事情，明明埃米尔也是曾经跟机械生命体的创造主外星人正面打成平手的存在啊
5.操控重力又能怎么样呢？成为跳楼少女吗。。。
6.能不能出个司令MOD啊，那么sao的建模浪费了多可惜- -
燃烧的火焰 发表于 2017-3-9 09:00
很给力的情报啊：
1.原来有一部分机械生命体断网是YORHA的锅啊
2.A2原本居然是爱哭鬼么，这反差萌- -
不但机械生命体不提，安卓人也完全没有埃米尔的记录。
我怀疑会不会是埃米尔和外星人大战的那段时间被黑掉了，这也是埃米尔武器多了几百年的原因？
—— 来自 HUAWEI EVA-TL00, Android 7.0上的 S1Next-鹅版
rinkzea 发表于 2017-3-8 20:24
YoRHa 1.0 在Nyaa上有种子，在http://nier2.com/yorha-stage-play/也有台本的英文翻译。
故事就是在11941 ...
感谢介绍
这真的不是光环小说版的斯巴达三期？
更重要的不是为什么埃米尔是从机械生命体里出来的，而且游戏里他满大街跑也没和机械生命体有敌对的迹象，包括最后那个塔也感觉没他什么事情
根据本篇最后结局
埃米尔武器应该是指弟弟回来重新组建网络同时几个骚黑皮衣回归吧
见到埃米尔露出表情代表之前已经认识了，不是轮回了，难不成新部队又是骚黑皮衣？
话说有武器故事的出处的考察么？
我不了解DOD系列，像武器里的百兽系列和不死鸟系列是不是DOD里的故事？
—— 来自 HUAWEI EVA-TL00, Android 7.0上的 S1Next-鹅版
與其說是輪迴
不如說是幾百年後 留在地球上的人造人跟機械生命又幹起了同樣的事 沒有長進
地球的重力連機械們都束縛住了
P站翻了一圈，似乎2B喜欢钓鱼还有A2喜欢散步已经变成捏他了
重打，发现了一个细节：在第一次从营地的武器店那里买东西的时候，老板会说这些都是由一个叫“アコール”的安卓拿来的……
所以说这些武器都是她从dod3里偷回来的吗23333
终于打完了E结局了，这作确实非常棒，不单是剧本优秀而且更重要的是表示形式很棒，比如2b中了伦理病毒那段，后来9s听到遗言，扫墓那段等。二周追加的回忆和通过hack别人来了解别人的过去等。
不单纯是剧本而是表现形式的优秀才给了我很大的情感冲击，完全沉浸于游戏的这个世界里。这游戏的表现力让我真心佩服。
不过打完后根据游戏中的情报似乎还是有一些没能完全解释的点，但看了219楼后的情报让我豁然开朗不少。写一点自己对于一部分情节的推测与分析。
Q：YoRHa计划是谁建造的，目的是什么，为什么又要废弃?
A：最开始根据游戏情报应该是人造人测建立的，但是后来打到塔感觉也可能是机械生命体自演的，不过两者都有解释不通的地方。
看了219楼后情报后突然明了，感觉应该最初确实是人造人建立的但是中途被N2黑入月面server，而N2并没打算立刻消灭人造人反而打算利用这个计划刷经验也进化自己侧，等到觉得刷够了再把bunker废弃并且用塔发射炮弹打掉月面保存dna保管基地。
而搭载了黑盒子的新型YoRHa部队和YoRHa部队废弃计划应该是机器人侧N2的产物，理由是采用的是机械生命的核，而且N2的脸也和新型YoRHa部队的脸像(无表情蓝瞳)。
而全体流程大概是这样:
YoRHa计划确立，根据"【極秘】ヨルハ計画概略"来看初始建立者是人类军司令部（但是此时可能已经没有人类了），从目前得知的情报来看似乎就是为了维护人造人的意义并且提高士气。
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YoRHa部队建立，目的确实是降下地球与机械生命体作战。这时生存的部分后来成为地球上的反抗军，而且个人推测还没搭载黑盒。
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YoRHa新型部队，也就是X型的建立，此时N2应该已经黑进了月面server，变更了计划的一部分，而此搭载了黑盒的此部队作用就是收集更多情报并且当机器人的陪练。
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收集够了情报，YoRHa新型破弃计划始动
Q：机器人侧分为哪几阵营?
A：根据"機械生命体研究報告書"来看，大致可以分为受网络统一管理的个体和有独立自我的个体，受网络统一管理的就是N2所管理的网络，他的目标是机械生命体进化而对战争是否有意义不关心。
而破损的部分产生了有独立自我意识的个体，比如森之王，帕斯卡鲁，亚当夏娃也是，这群具有自我的个体更加想了解人而想变得更像人类，特别亚当和夏娃应该进化是最成功的，列入了塔的保存名单里。
个人推测这些特殊个体也有自己的网络能够管理一部分个体不过权限明显低于N2。或者他们的网络独立于N2的网络，理由是剧情中N2没有直接控制他们。
不过此处有一个疑问就是灭掉帕斯卡鲁村的机械生命体是谁控制的，N2似乎没有理由要去直接干掉这个村子，而且真的想打的话应该能很早就打掉，因此这部分目前还没法完全清楚。
Q：轮回是?
A：从游戏中2B和9S的对话可以看出他们之前应该就相处过很多次，个人认为这里的所谓的轮回很简单就是9S接近发现真相而被2B干掉。至于3周目到达的剧情部分应该是首次到达。
虽然从艾米尔的武器情报和一部分对话推测，说不定d结局也许才是大才局上比较好的结局。不过从感情上来说果然还是e结局，毕竟经过三周目的旅程我肯定无法接受主角们数据被消除的，这次横尾没在最后喂屎真是谢谢他大发慈悲。
很期待这游戏今后的dlc以及月底的攻略本，期待更多补完。
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舞台剧应该不能直接代入游戏吧
特别是N2的黑入时间点和游戏不一定是一致的
至于萝卜村是一部分村民突然失控被灭的吧
游戏里失控后谁都杀的萝卜不少 谷之主 还有深海那只都说是这样 也不一定是谁操作的吧
村子暴乱之前最后一个镜头有爆炸声 帕斯卡看向远方（森之国的方向）
如果游戏中章节顺序是时间顺序的话 应该是9s破坏森之国的肉之箱的时候……
雪城穗乃香 发表于 2017-3-9 14:03
话说有武器故事的出处的考察么？
我不了解DOD系列，像武器里的百兽系列和不死鸟系列是不是DOD里的故事？
不是，每一代的武器故事都不一样
例如同样一把武器在1代2代的不同：
百獣の剣 nier1
Lv.1：むかしむかしある王国に3人の兄弟がいました。
3兄弟の次男は軍隊をひきいる将軍様でした。
軍隊はとても暴力的でみんなおびえていました。
Lv.2：将軍は戦争が好きでした。
もえた街や転がる死体を見ることが好きでした。
将軍は征服することではなく、滅ぼす事だけを命じました。
機械のように訓練された兵士達は将軍様のために村や街や国をぜーんぶ滅ぼしていきました。
将軍様はそれを見ながらグフグフグフと下品な声でわらいます。
Lv.3：軍隊はひたすらに進軍しました。
海の国も、山の国も、夏の国も、冬の国も、東の国も、西の国も、見境なく滅ぼしていきました。
絶対的な将軍様の命令に従い、ずーっと何年も何年もひたすら殺して殺して殺して殺して殺して殺して殺しまくりました。
Lv.4：やがて軍隊はある国に到着しました。
街の人も兵隊もお姫様も王子様もみんなみーんな槍で突き殺しました。
最後にみすぼらしい将軍が涙ながらに命乞いをしてきましたがすぐ殺しました。
その将軍の顔はどこかで見たような顔でした。
兵隊達は思い出そうとしましたが、将軍の娘が現れたとたんにその子を突き殺すのに夢中になり、二度とその事を考える事はありませんでした。
nier2（A9的翻译文，原文懒得找了
从前在某个王国，有三姐妹的王女。
三姐妹中的二女虽然不聪明但被认为是世界第一美人，于是嫁给了邻国的国王。
邻国的国王无比喜爱着二女的美丽，每天给她换六次新的衣裙，送八次鲜花。
欢喜于自己的受宠，二女不断地变得更加光辉夺目。
为了王而许愿变得更美的二女，不惜一切追寻着变美的方法。
但是唯有永驻美貌的方法是无法得到的。有一天，二女想到一个好方法。
二女将自己做成标本，选择了永远的美丽。王因此而感动的流泪。
两年后，邻国开始了战争，标本被瓦砾压碎变得破破烂烂。
http://dic.nicovideo.jp/a/%E6%AD%A6%E5%99%A8%E7%89%A9%E8%AA%9E这里有dod的武器物语
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