littlezoo 发表于 2015-12-30 16:26
王牌空战沙滩排球都是以往出过PC版的，这次上新平台作为第三方有可能不跨平台吗？除非自己产品不想卖了。 ...
从没听说过沙滩排球和王牌空战出过PC版，DOA5用PS3版没衣服破坏系统上的steam,PS4还独占内容，steam厨哪来的那么自信，所有主机版VR游戏都要出PC版。
PS4这种统一的封闭硬件对开发者远比PC的兼容问题好处理，你可能说我们steam“将来”也有主机PC啊，也不想想微软从做了多少年才吧xbox的品牌打响。大家都是渠道商，你steam为啥就比SONY对第三方的影响力大了，人家可是从PS做到现在的啊。
littlezoo 发表于 2015-12-30 19:25
说实话，谁知道第三方是不是真的坚守PSVR呢?尤其是这么新又没有以往经验的平台，按照常理夏日课程不跨专 ...
说了这么多oculus能玩的这么多，倒是说一个大作啊，能比沙滩排球和皇牌空战响的，巴拉巴拉全是画饼，PC资源是多倒是举例几个啊，楼主可是给出了首发的名单了。要不我给你举个？性感沙滩4算大作？
奈叶魔王控 发表于 2015-12-31 11:01
从没听说过沙滩排球和王牌空战出过PC版，DOA5用PS3版没衣服破坏系统上的steam,PS4还独占内容，steam厨哪 ...
任地狱也是这么想的，人家FC做到现在。
fruoyu0127 发表于 2015-12-31 08:32
楼上战地4卡的一逼的净扯蛋…除非你说的是4K分辨率全特效。1080全特效的话一张970完全能秒掉，2K稍微开低抗 ...
他好像说的是接VR之后的运行情况
—— 来自 motorola Nexus 6, Android 6.0.1
dystopiaground 发表于 2015-12-31 11:16
然而VR想要真正的走进普通民众的视野还是要靠索尼任天堂这样的游戏机硬件商进行大力推广，你PC上的VR做的再 ...
原理一样的话，PC配置都不够游戏机更别说了，除非剑走偏锋。
littlezoo 发表于 2015-12-30 17:47
就VR这个事，有号召力的平台不应该是oculus吗?背后还有Facebook这个靠山。
统一这个事情首先得是有大量 ...
喜欢VR这么极客的东西的人你认为是玩FB的普通人还是玩PS4的游戏宅？
我倾向于认为大量混杂的资源会搞死一种新硬件，而不是搞活。不要忘了，这个名为VR的东西是要掏出几千块钱买回家的，大家就为了运行一些来路不明品质参差甚至于能不能顺利运行都是问题的小游戏？
有统一的标准才可以称之为平台，哪怕这个标准比较低。
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mcq_2 发表于 2015-12-31 11:25
他好像说的是接VR之后的运行情况
—— 来自 motorola Nexus 6, Android 6.0.1
不，是正常情况正常PC正常游戏，某次更新之后卡顿就没解决过，可能只能说我太天才了
哦对，YOUTUBE上和EA论坛上和我一样天才的一抓一大把，都懒的骂了
fruoyu0127 发表于 2015-12-31 08:32
楼上战地4卡的一逼的净扯蛋…除非你说的是4K分辨率全特效。1080全特效的话一张970完全能秒掉，2K稍微开低抗 ...
都不用1080，全低特效640的分辨率照卡不误，好象是从第二个DLC开始突然出现的问题，同样状况的YOUTUBE和EA论坛上一抓一大把，可能这个世界上还是天才多吧
拉沃契金 发表于 2015-12-31 05:22
等ac7出来再说
不过我觉得信索尼不如信G胖，真的
可是G胖他们家硬件是火腿肠做的啊...火腿肠的技术能力我有点不相信
he_w 发表于 2015-12-31 12:52
可是G胖他们家硬件是火腿肠做的啊...火腿肠的技术能力我有点不相信
G胖如果真想搞VR , 一个protal3 vr版比什么IP都管用。但很明显G胖压根儿就不把这玩意儿放心上。
he_w 发表于 2015-12-31 12:52
可是G胖他们家硬件是火腿肠做的啊...火腿肠的技术能力我有点不相信
G胖如果真想搞VR , 一个protal3 vr版比什么IP都管用。但很明显G胖压根儿就不把这玩意儿放心上。
he_w 发表于 2015-12-31 12:52
可是G胖他们家硬件是火腿肠做的啊...火腿肠的技术能力我有点不相信
G胖如果真想搞VR , 一个protal3 vr版比什么IP都管用。但很明显G胖压根儿就不把这玩意儿放心上。
he_w 发表于 2015-12-31 12:52
可是G胖他们家硬件是火腿肠做的啊...火腿肠的技术能力我有点不相信
G胖如果真想搞VR , 一个protal3 vr版比什么IP都管用。但很明显G胖压根儿就不把这玩意儿放心上。
nukejoker 发表于 2015-12-31 13:14
G胖如果真想搞VR , 一个protal3 vr版比什么IP都管用。但很明显G胖压根儿就不把这玩意儿放心上。 ...
oculus和墨菲斯从进入公众视野也都挺久的了,火腿肠那个要不是挂了steam的标,我还以为又是什么跟风山寨作...
oz01 发表于 2015-12-30 17:55
这张图我再发一遍
帧数好低，光看图就有点晕了
提HTC的，你们还是赶快买两部HTC的手机祈祷HTC两年内别倒闭吧
nukejoker 发表于 2015-12-31 13:14
G胖如果真想搞VR , 一个protal3 vr版比什么IP都管用。但很明显G胖压根儿就不把这玩意儿放心上。 ...
HTC VIVE第一次公布的时候就用的Portal VR演示，只是没把logo打出来。相关视频网上一大把
nukejoker 发表于 2015-12-31 13:14
G胖如果真想搞VR , 一个protal3 vr版比什么IP都管用。但很明显G胖压根儿就不把这玩意儿放心上。 ...
HTC VIVE第一次公布的时候就用的Portal VR演示，只是没把logo打出来。相关视频网上一大把
不看好PC版
Pc平台软硬件差异导致的兼容问题已经常态化，这种帧数要求严格的平台挺要命的
奈叶魔王控 发表于 2015-12-31 11:18
说了这么多oculus能玩的这么多，倒是说一个大作啊，能比沙滩排球和皇牌空战响的，巴拉巴拉全是画饼，PC资 ...
比如
3d定制女仆1,2
PALYGIRLS
。。
fay135500 发表于 2015-12-31 13:51
帧数好低，光看图就有点晕了
没办法，gif帧数 高的话，那尺寸就赶上小视频了
实际是60帧
奈叶魔王控 发表于 2015-12-31 11:18
说了这么多oculus能玩的这么多，倒是说一个大作啊，能比沙滩排球和皇牌空战响的，巴拉巴拉全是画饼，PC资 ...
List of AAA games with Oculus Rift support:
Alien Isolation Released Native Yes Yes Windows Average Video, Site, Steam 0.6.X
Assetto Corsa Released Native Yes Yes Windows Good Video, Site, Steam 0.6.X
Digital Combat Simulator World Released Native Yes Yes Windows Average Video, Site, Steam 0.5.X
Dirt: Rally Released Native No Yes Windows Good Video, Site, Steam 0.8.X
Doom Released Modded Yes Yes Windows Unknown GZ3Doom Mod, Video 0.8.X
Doom 2 Released Modded Yes Yes Windows Unknown Video 0.8.X
Doom 3 Released Native Yes Yes Windows Unknown Video 0.8.X
Duke Nukem 3D Released Native Yes Yes Windows Unknown Video 0.4.X
Dying Light Released Native Yes Yes Windows, Linux Poor Video 0.5.X
Elite: Dangerous Released Native / SteamVR Yes Yes Windows, Mac Very Good Video 0.5.X
Euro Truck Simulator 2 Released Native Yes Yes Windows, Mac Very Good Video 0.8.X
EVE: Valkyrie Upcoming Native No Yes Yes Windows, Mac Good Video 1.0.X
Grid: Autosport Released Native No Yes Windows Average Video 0.5.X
Half-Life: Source Released Native Yes No No Windows, Mac, Linux Good Steam 0.4.X
Half-Life 2 + Episodes Released Native Yes Yes Windows, Mac, Linux Good Video 0.6.X
Hawken Released Native Yes No No Windows, Mac Unknown Video 0.4.X
Hexen Released Native Yes Yes Windows Unknown Video 0.5.X
Iracing Released Native Yes Yes Windows Very Good Video 0.5.X
Microsoft Flight Simulator X Released Modded Yes Yes Windows Good Mod, Video 0.8.X
Minecraft Released Modded Yes Yes No Windows, Mac, Linux Perfect Minecrift mod, Video 0.6.X
Minecraft Windows 10 Edition Upcoming Native No Yes Yes Windows, Mac, Linux Unknown Video 1.0.X
Prepar3D Released Modded Yes Yes Windows Good Video 0.8.X
Project Cars Released Native Yes Yes Windows Good Video 0.8.X
Quake Released Modded Yes Yes Windows, Linux Unknown Video 0.8.X
Quake 2 Released Native Yes Yes Windows Very Good Video 0.8.X
Rift Released Native Yes Yes Windows Unknown Steam 0.5.X
Rock Band VR Upcoming Native No Yes Yes Windows Unknown Video 1.0.X
Star Conflict Released Native Yes Yes Windows, Mac, Linux Very Good Video 0.6.X
Team Fortress 2 Released Native Yes Yes Windows, Mac, Linux Very Good Video, FPS Config 0.6.X
List of non-AAA games with Oculus Rift support (Indie/small business/mod):
4089: Ghost Within Released Native No Yes Windows, Mac, Linux Unknown Video 0.6.X
AaaaaAAaaaAAAaaAAAAaAAAAA!!! for the Awesome Released Native Yes Yes Windows, Mac Good Site, Steam, Video 0.6.X
Adr1ft Upcoming Native No Yes Yes Windows Unknown Video 1.0.X
Aeon Alpha Released Native Yes Yes Windows Good Forum, Reddit, Site 0.4.X
Airmech VR Upcoming Native No Yes Yes Windows Unknown Video 1.0.X
Albino Lullaby Released Native Yes Yes Windows Very Good Site, Steam, Video, Video 0.6.X
ARK:Survival Evolved Released Native Yes Yes Windows, Mac, Linux Average Video, Site, Steam 0.8.X
BlazeRush Released Native No Yes Windows, Mac, Linux Very Good Site, Steam, Video 0.5.X
Chronos Upcoming Native No Yes Yes Windows Unknown Video 1.0.X
Crashed Lander Released Native Yes Yes Windows, Mac, Linux Very Good Site, Steam, Video 0.8.X
Crystal Rift Released Native No Yes Windows, Mac Good Site, Steam, Video 0.8.X
Custom Maid 3D (NSFW) Released Native Yes Yes Windows Very Good SFW Video 0.6.X
Custom Maid 3D 2 (NSFW) Released Native Yes Yes Windows Average Download 0.6.X
Darkfield VR Upcoming Native Yes Yes Windows, Mac, Linux Very Good Site, Steam, Video 0.8.X
Damaged Core Upcoming Native No Yes Yes Windows Unknown Video 1.0.X
DolphinVR Released Native Yes Yes Windows, Linux Game Dependent Download 0.8.X
Edge of Nowhere Upcoming Native No Yes Yes Windows Unknown Video 1.0.X
Enemy Starfighter Upcoming Native No Yes Yes Windows Unknown Video 1.0.X
Esper Upcoming Native No Yes Yes Windows Unknown Video 1.0.X
Ether One Released Native Yes No No Windows Unknown Steam 0.4.X
Euclidean Released Native No Yes Windows Very Good Video,Site,Steam, Review 0.8.X
Fated Upcoming Native No Yes Yes Windows Unknown Site 1.0.X
Fistful of Frags Released Native Yes No No Windows, (Mac), Linux Unknown Video 0.3.X
Frontiers Upcoming Native Yes Yes Windows, Mac Unknown Steam 0.8.X
Formula C Upcoming Native No Yes No Windows Unknown Site 0.8.X
The Gallery: Six Elements Released Native Yes Yes Yes Windows Unknown Video 0.6.X
Ghostship Aftermath Released Native Yes Yes Windows Unknown Video 0.5.X
Gon' E-Choo! Released Native No Yes Windows Very Good Video, Site 0.6.X
Half-Life VR (Mod for HL2) Released Native Yes Yes Windows Very Good Video, Reddit 0.6.X
Herobound: Spirit Champion Upcoming Native No No Yes Windows Unknown Video 1.0.X
High Fidelity Released Native No Yes Windows, Mac, Linux Unknown Video 0.5.X
Holodance Upcoming Native No Yes Windows, Mac, Linux Unknown Site, Video 0.8.X
Iomoon Upcoming Native No Yes Windows Unknown Site 0.8.X
Job Simulator Upcoming Native No Yes Yes Windows Good Site, Video 1.0.X
Jump Released Native No Yes Windows Good Site, Steam, Video 0.6.X
Kairo Released Native Yes Yes Windows, Mac, Linux Good Site, Steam, Video 0.6.X
Keep Talking And Nobody Explodes Released Native Yes Yes Windows Good Site, Steam, Video 0.6.X
Legend of Dungeon Released Native No Yes Windows, Mac, Linux Very Good Site, Steam, Video 0.5.X
Lemma Released Native No Yes Windows Good Video 0.6.X
Licht: Little Adventure Released Native Yes No No Windows Unknown 0.4.X
Live For Speed Released Native Yes Yes Windows Very Good Site, Video 0.8.X
Lucky's Tale Upcoming Native No Yes Yes Windows Unknown Video 1.0.X
Lunar Flight Released Native Yes Yes Windows, Mac Very good Video 0.8.X
Mania**et Released Native No Yes Windows Unknown 0.5.X
Meltdown Released Native No Yes Windows, Mac, Linux Very Good Site, Steam, Video 0.5.X
Motorbike Released Native No Yes Windows Very good 0.5.X
Motorsport Revolution Released Native No Yes Windows, Mac Unknown 0.5.X
NoLimits 2 Roller Coaster Simulator Released Native Yes Yes Windows Very Good Video 0.8.X
Null of Hope Upcoming Native No Yes Windows Very Good Site & Demo, Steam, Video 0.8.X
Obduction Upcoming Native No Yes Windows, Mac, Linux Unknown 0.8.X
Probably Archery Released Native Yes No No Windows, Mac, Linux Unknown Site, Steam, Video 0.4.X
Proton Pulse Upcoming Native No Yes Yes Windows, Mac Unknown 1.0.X
Q.U.B.E. Director's Cut Released Native Yes No No Windows Unknown Site, Steam, Video 0.4.X
Qbeh-1: The Atlas Cube Released Native Yes Yes Windows, Mac Unknown Site, Steam, Video 0.5.X
Race the Sun Released Native No Yes Windows, Mac, Linux Unknown Site,Steam, Video 0.5.X
Radial-G Released Native Yes Yes Windows Very Good Site, Steam, Video, Demo 0.6.X
RetroVirus Released Native Yes No No Windows Poor Site, Steam, Video 0.4.X
Richard Burns Rally Released Modded Yes Yes Windows Unknown Mod 0.5.X
Robot Chess Released Native No Yes Windows Good 0.6.X
Second Life Released Native Yes Yes Windows, Mac Unknown Video, Site 0.5.X
Shufflepuck Cantina Deluxe VR Released Native Yes Yes Windows, Mac Very Good Steam, Video 0.5.X
Soda Drinker Pro Released Native Yes Yes Windows, Mac Unknown 0.5.X
Sphereface Upcoming Native Yes Yes Windows Unknown 0.8.X
STRAFE Upcoming Native No Yes Yes Windows Unknown 1.0.X
Strike Suit Zero Released Native Yes No No Windows, Mac, Linux Poor Site, Steam, Video 0.4.X
Sublevel Zero Upcoming Native Yes Yes Windows Site, Steam, Video 0.8.X
Subnautica Released Native Yes Yes Windows Good Site, Steam, Video 0.5.X
Super Hot Upcoming Native Yes Yes Windows, Mac, Linux Unknown Link 0.8.X
Surgeon Simulator 2013 Released Native Yes No No Windows, Mac, Linux Good Site, Steam,Video 0.4.X
Surgeon Simulator ER Upcoming Native No Yes Yes Windows, Mac, Linux Unknown Video 1.0.X
Synergy (HL2 Co-op Mod) Released Native Yes Yes Windows, Mac, Linux Good Video 0.6.X
Synthesis Upcoming (Alpha Available) Native No Yes Windows, Mac, Linux Very Good Video, Site 0.8.X
Synthesis Universe -Maze- Upcoming, Demo Available Native Yes Yes Windows Very good Video, Site 0.8.X
Time Machine VR Released Native Yes Yes Yes Windows Very Good Site, Steam, Video 0.8.X
Timerifters Released Native Yes Yes Windows, Mac Very Good Video 0.6.X
Technolust Upcoming Native No Yes Windows, Mac, Linux Very Good Demo, Video 0.8.X
Toybox Turbos Released Native No Yes Windows Very Good Site, Steam, Video 0.5.X
Trackmania 2: Canyon Released Native Yes Yes Windows Average Site, Steam + Demo, Video 0.5.X
Trackmania 2: Stadium Released Native Yes Yes Windows Average Site, Steam + Demo, Video 0.5.X
Vanguard V Upcoming Native No Yes Yes Windows, Mac Unknown 1.0.X
Vendetta Online Released Native No Yes Windows, Mac, Linux Unknown 0.8.X
VR Sports Upcoming Native No Yes Yes Windows Unknown 1.0.X
VROOM: Aerie Released Native No Yes Windows Very Good Site, Video 0.8.X
VROOM: Galleon Upcoming Native No Yes Windows Very Good Steam, Video 0.8.X
Windlands Upcoming Native Yes Yes Windows Unknown 0.8.X
World of Diving Released Native Yes Yes Windows, Mac, Linux Very Poor Site, Steam, Video 0.8.X
Xing Upcoming Native No Yes Yes Windows Unknown 1.0.X
这些是可以实实在在玩到的，现在就可以玩到的游戏，巴拉巴拉画饼喷了。。。。
PSVR那些才是画饼吧，你确定皇牌空战VR 2018年以前能玩到？？喷了。。。
不知ps4能不能通过类似雷电架桥的技术提升性能呢，现在看有点勉强啊
littlezoo 发表于 2015-12-31 16:16
List of AAA games with Oculus Rift support:
Alien Isolation Released Native Yes Yes Windows Aver ...
于是这些饼啥时候能玩到呢？
奈叶魔王控 发表于 2015-12-31 17:17
于是这些饼啥时候能玩到呢？
当然是现在就可以玩到，随便给几个列表里的视频。
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An9zM_RNdN8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbAoz-qy49Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfnBNvYRPyo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suOSaeF-NeU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wVfT3eDjLP8
这个列表其实是老的，还有一些新游戏，或者一些其他不适合播出的游戏。。。。你懂的。
算是业内，来为大法说几句话：
我用过DK2，MORPHEUS和GEAR VR，比较来说MORPHEUS确实是各方面体验最好的。
DK2不仅分辨率低，而且非常不稳定，经常会有接上线电脑认不出来的情况。我用过0.6和0.8的SDK都有这个情况，最近没碰过它，所以不知道有没有改进。crescent bay我没有，同事用过，但是据他说性能也没有什么提高。FPS看你电脑决定，反正UNREAL那个叫SHOWDOWN还是啥的DEMO，用MORPHEUS跑丝般顺滑，用OCULUS在我工作电脑上跑卡得跟狗一样，我工作电脑是正常的开发机配置。
GEAR VR用来看360度电影不错，但是性能就那鸟样，只认方向不认位置。
MORPHEUS的分辨率够高，而且要求就是120FPS，SDK里面自己就给了你很多关于怎么提高FPS的代码。他们有很多黑科技，如果程序员勤快的话，在PS4上面有SOLID 60FPS的游戏，用那些黑科技提高到120FPS左右应该没问题。第一页有“业内”说大法没有90FPS要不然是吹，要不然是只玩过非常早之前的版本。据我所知，大法的DEMO都是120FPS。它在我看来最大的问题是定价还是偏高（据说是照一台新主机的价位来定价），而且要和PS CAMERA捆绑出售。上次OCULUS开会的时候说预计发售价是350刀左右，我估计MORPHEUS加相机大概是400刀。
VIVE不是发售日期才跳过票吗为什么这楼里的人都对HTC这么有信心……
所谓的“支持VR”和"VR游戏“是完全不一样的两回事，现在有很多AAA游戏都能用OCULUS跑，实在不行还可以用所谓的VR DRIVER，理论上来说只要是用DX11的游戏都能VR，但是真正用VR玩起来体验好的基本没有。大部分游戏你看油管视频挺酷炫的，真带到你头上跑起来视角一动保证你三分钟不到就恶心想吐。你想感受一下摄像机晃来晃去的恶心感可以试试用google cardboard跑攻壳机动队的那个新宣动，我们好几个同事都试过，看完基本都要扶着墙走。这还只是视角，还没说到UI设计之类乱七八糟的问题。所以你别看楼上那个LIST那么长，真正玩起来能保证你左右眼都看到UI还不晕的恐怕很少。
顺便说一下，大法自己那个叫做PLAY ROOM的DEMO，是我见过的所有DEMO中最有趣，而且对VR的性能用的最好的。如果在展会上看到这个DEMO的话，请一定要排队试一下。
本帖最后由 fruoyu0127 于 2016-1-1 17:47 编辑
点男 发表于 2015-12-31 12:32
都不用1080，全低特效640的分辨率照卡不误，好象是从第二个DLC开始突然出现的问题，同样状况的YOUTUBE和E ...
网战不卡啊，所有DLC全装了。泰坦陨落当时我没买季票，不清楚，早不玩了，当时用770玩也没感觉卡，没有全开到最高
本帖最后由 fruoyu0127 于 2016-1-1 17:44 编辑
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那么 2016发售的话 最有可能会是哪一场发布会公布呢？
fruoyu0127 发表于 2016-1-1 17:42
网战不卡啊，所有DLC全装了。泰坦陨落当时我没买季票，不清楚，早不玩了，当时用770玩也没感觉卡，没有全 ...
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